What's Wrong With Ward Fighting in Oakland?

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  1. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Wladimir Klitschko fought in Germany for 5 years straight. I don't see any complaints.
    Aruthur Abraham only fights in Germany and is a champion. No complaints.
    We all know it would take an act of God to get Floyd out of Vegas.
    Jean Pascal 7 years in Canada. Bell Centre only.
    Carl Froch England only since 2011
    Adonis Stevenson in Quebec since 2011

    Andre Ward fighting in Oakland is no problem with me, if his opponents don't want to go then fine, but the complaining about him and ignoring others is just ignorant.
     
  2. theword

    theword Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's his lack of travel for the S6 that bothered and continues to bother his critics. I get it, everyone else had to fight away from home, he acted like the rules didn't apply to him...and he was sort of right since they allowed it to happen.
     
  3. Super Hans

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    The reason Ward doesn't want to travel outside it's borders are due to the shady Calofornian state athletics commissions laxs policy on drug testing

    And to fight a top a opponent, unlike all the guys you mentioned, Ward has no fan base. His fights sell around 4,500 tickets in 11,000 seat arenas.

    Ward needs to accept being the B-side and stop demanding everyone come to him.

    Sergio Martinez realised he was B-side, despite being a champion on the pound for pound list, to Chavez Jr and Cotto. Ward must do the same.
     
  4. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's look at all the guys you named over the last 10 years....

    Froch has fought...
    Taylor away, Kessler away, and Ward away
    Abraham and Johnson on neutral ground.

    Wlad has fought...
    Jennings away, Povetkin, and Brock away
    Peter, Thompson and Ibragimov on Neutral ground

    Abraham has fought...
    Ward and Dirrell away
    Froch, Miranda and El**** on neutral ground

    Floyd...
    ZILCH

    Pascal has fought...
    Froch and Pittman Away

    Stevenson has fought...
    El Amin and Boone Away

    Some of these are better comparisons than others, but I think it's fair for people to want to see the man fight outside of Oakland. Particularly as he isn't much of a draw even in Oakland.
     
  5. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    The guys I mentioned bar Mayweather have no fan base outside of where they like to fight either. That's why they fight in the same area they make money there. which is why Ward loves Oakland.
     
  6. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But the difference is they actually DO have a fan base where they like to fight.
     
  7. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rank each of these men based off of their drawing ability in each man's preferred location.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    He doesn't have many fans. So what? If he wants to make less or more money to fight in Oakland than he would accepting other offers, fine. That's why it's called a negotiation. That's why it's nice to have fans and thus bring more money and negotiating power to the table. If his opponent doesn't want to fight in Oakland, then just don't sign the contract until that isn't the case. Pretty simple.
     
  9. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sounds like a sh*t situation that will result in very few big fights being made that involve Andre Ward :lol:
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    That is what it sounds like...
     
  11. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm a pretty smart cookie :yep
     
  12. Super Hans

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    Was going to answer with this.

    Ward's calls him sell SOG because like Jesus he only has 12 followers.
     
  13. GOW7

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    He's ****ed off a good deal of fans, mainly over seas so the littlest thing to reach for is not fighting there where we all know he most likely wouldn't of gotten a fair shake. Kessler, Froch and AA are bad when it comes to home cooking and you guys know this. You all know you can't even throw body shots on AA when he's fighting at home. Let's just call a spade a spade fellas. 😁
     
  14. Super Hans

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    This is why he is not getting any big fights. And let's be honest, even the Dawson fight wouldn't have happened if Dawson wasn't willing to drain himself and travel to Oakland.

    Yet Ward fans seem to think everyone is ducking him but Ward has never (including the Super Six) accepting being the B-side. (Would only fight Dirrell and Froch if he was considered the home fighter)
     
  15. Ducklerr

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    :lol::lol::yep