After Wladimir Klitschko fights 5 more times, where will this leave him in the ATG?

Fair enough, but that's an example. What I'm saying is that Wlad's dividends will only come in a long way AFTER he has retired. Feel free to substitute any other current top HW for Wilder.

 

Agree with this.

His resume is solid, if lacking an "ATG" on the hit list. I think people get the impression that the HW division sucks right now BECAUSE of his crushing dominance. Many of his opponents would have given a good account of themselves in other eras.

 

That's a really really poor ****ysis and I can't take what you say seriously from now out, such obvious fanboyism.

Wlad's never been in the ring with anyone half as good as Bowe, Wlad's Glass Jaw would have shattered, I'm saying an early KO for Bowe.

Hoylfield outboxes him pretty handily.

Ok now I know your delusional, Vitali was lucky the fight got stopped or he would have been permanently injured. Klitschko fanboys actually think Vitali was gonna win that fight which is laughable and tell all I need to know. Vitali won the early rounds due to activity but didn't land any power shots of note, all the big shots were landed by LEWIS and he was taking control of the fight when it got stopped. Did you even see Vitali's face? The stoppage was caused by PUNCHES, the big punches Lewis was landing again and again. All Vitali was doing was landing a pawing jab which Lewis was simply walking through, I give it 2 rounds before Vitali was KO'd tho. That fight being stopped was the worst thing for LEWIS and not for VItali because it was only a matter of time before he gets KO'd.

Old, fat, last fight of his career, demotivated Lewis TKO 6 Vitali, and thats what history will remember. Imagine a peak Lewis vs Vitali? No contest.

Bruno would be demolished vs Wlad? LMAO, Bruno is one of the worst matchups I can think of vs Wlad, the fact you think Wlad would win thsi easy tells me all I need to know about your boxing knowledge. Bruno had one of the best jabs of all time and in fact had longer reach than Wlad. What's Wlad gonna do against someone who can jab back? He'll spend the fight running, also if Bruno lands on Wlad it's game over Wlad's chin is CHINA. Think Corrie Sanders again but worse.

I'm not even gonna talk about Tyson vs Wlad, Shattered Glass 100%

This is a TERRIBLE heavyweight era that Wlad's "dominated" fact.

Lewis/Holyfield/Bowe/Tyson/Bruno/McCall > Wlad/Povetkin/Peter/Brewster/Haye/Ibrahimov


Not even close.

 

Top 10

 

If he beats Fury, he will have in his W record a very good group of fighters (Byrd x2, Haye, Povetkin, Pulev, Chagaev, Peter x2, etc) while having the 2nd longest reign in HW history, the 2nd highest number of consecutive title defenses and the 2nd longest unbeaten streak, and having unified 3 belts.

Top3 ATG for me.

 

Yes, pray that one day you get a brain, because clearly you don't have one right now. No logic in your posts, just hate.

 

Its funny how some people just will not allow any amount of evidence to alter their opinion. You FEEL Wlad is bad, and nothing will ever make you change your mind. He could shatter Louis's record, have 30 consecutive successful defenses in a row, beat someone who goes on to rule the division for years after he's gone, hell, even go back in time and beat all the old time greats, and you guys would still make up excuses about how he's inferior. I greatly prefer Vitali and Lennox to Wlad, as far a being a "fan" goes. But if he breaks Louis's records and unifies, there's just no logical question that he will have exceeded them both in accomplishments and place in history. You've got to be willing to use FACTS and not FEELINGS, to ****yze things, or jeez, I really feel bad for your performance in all aspects of life.

 

Saying he's top 10-12 right now is not hate, its very rational. Saying he would barely squeek into top 10 in the scenario listed above, after having a historic run where he unifies this many titles for the first time ever, breaks Joe Louis's records and becomes the longest reigning HW champ ever, which you stated, is hate. Total, rationally indefensible hate. I don't know if he can do that, but if he does, he's got an argument for GOAT and is indisputably top 5 among rational people.

 

Uh, yeah. It says 1. I'm consistent and 2. I called what looks to be Wlad's current ambition before it became popular. Like I said, he may not be able to do it, I put it 50/50. But if he does, he's got as good an argument to it as anyone. And, if he loses along the way, it could very well lower him from where I have him now, around #9. I'm objective about it, unlike you.