Is Fernado Vargas the only boxer who was completely shot at age 28?

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    kirk, didn't he leave Bloodworth around that same time, too?

    I know he looked to be in peak form when he was working with Roger, and I never remember him looking the same after Roger - although I can't remember when (or why) they parted ways?

    I am pretty sure he was with Bloodworth when he faced Tito.
     
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  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There were few.

    Pipino Cuevas
    Juanma Lopez
    Panchito Bojado
    Wilfred Benitez
     
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  3. Sandokan32

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    Vargas is probably the most dramatic example of a genuine young talent who became shot early.

    Some people said he was too "green" to face Tito in 2000. Perhaps. But I believe he started the fight WAAAY overconfident in his ability to take Trinidad´s punches. He just couldn´t believe Tito was THAT DEVASTATING as a puncher. He paid the price for that.
     
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  4. Jacory Harris

    Jacory Harris I'm a gorilla I'm a dawg! Full Member

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    Kellie Pavlick
    Jermaine Tailor
    Miguel Cottoe
    Karmit Cintrun
     
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  5. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    David Reid deserves a mention...!!! He retired at age 27 after losing to Sam Hill, aka The Fighting Policeman...!!!
     
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  6. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Baby bull went from giving Marquez hell to getting hurt by Pauli Malignaggi pretty quickly.
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Matthew Saad Muhammad was totally shot by the age of 28. Basically 13 of his 16 losses came after he turned 28. (One came three weeks before he turned 28.)
     
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  8. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't forget Bertoe!
     
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  9. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foreman was shot emotionally not skillwise....
     
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  10. BlackBrenny

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    Michael Gomez
     
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  11. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Mike's issues were more mentl the dixipline Tyson under Cus and Rooney was a much diffrent Tyson when he got with King. He relied on what he leaernd and intimidtation but he stopped putting in the work that he use to and didn't train as hard
     
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  12. Devils Advocate

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    This is who immediately came to mind. Granted he had bad eye but Trinidad put it on him pretty thick.
     
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  13. Thread Stealer

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    Davey Moore. That Duran fight messed him up and he went downhill quickly. Moore was very good despite his lack of experience as a pro. Ayub Kalule was a good fighter and Moore stopped him in just his 11th pro fight.

    He died at 28 when he was working on his car and got ran over by it. Another tragic ending for a fighter of the same name.
     
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  14. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beat me to it:good. Benitez is the fella that came to mind.
     
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  15. Godhead

    Godhead Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You don't know what your talking about. You can throw combinations and look cute doing it, when the fighter your throwing the combinations at won't hit back. When Tyson fought solid guys, even if he won, the combination punching and head movement was not there (Razor Ruddock). When your fighting a bum, you can look good. It wasn't skill deterioration, it was competition.

    He did most of his combination punching and head movement when he was like 19 or 20, when he stepped up in competition he threw 1 punch at a time.
     
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