Ali isn't as good as we think...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Mob, May 7, 2008.


  1. Mob

    Mob Active Member Full Member

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    I have been a boxing fan for over 30 years. I got into the game as a kid, back when Ali, Duran and Zarate were the ****.

    But as I watch Ali's fights now.....he is overrated as ****.

    He was mobile, fast and had a granite chin. But modern day heavyweights like Lewis, Tyson, Wlad and a slew of others would be something he never had to deal with, let alone COULD deal with.

    I am watching Ali vs. Wepner right now......and Wepner is a ****ing bum. Ali is and was overrated.
     
  2. Sputnik44

    Sputnik44 Active Member Full Member

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    Wepner is taking some serious punches though
     
  3. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Ali vs Wepner is what your basing this on??? Are you ******ed or something???

    And I could see Lewis and maybe Tyson giving him problems but WLAD???? Yea one of Ali's quick rights on the chin and he goes right down.

    Lay off the crack.
     
  4. scrapdog

    scrapdog INVICTUS Full Member

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    He dealt with and fought those fighters of his time. I think it is ridiculous to compare fighters then to now.
     
  5. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is rediculous, the problem isn't Ali, the problem is what you view as important for a boxer.

    Ali's record speaks for itself, Frazier x2, Liston x2, Foreman, Patterson x2, and on and on and on.

    Foreman proved just how "improved" the HW division is now. Its a simple numbers game, there were a ton more fighters in Ali's day, therefore there were a ton more talented fighters.
     
  6. Mob

    Mob Active Member Full Member

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    Hey dickhead.........allow me to introduce myself.

    I have been watching boxing since you have probably been alive.

    Ali would have MAJOR problems with a guy like Wlad. Bigger than anyone he ever faced with quick hands and MUCHO power.....and Ali didn't have the punch needed to beat Wlad.

    Styles make fights. And for Ali....Lennox and Wlad would be too much imo.
     
  7. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea, theres no way Ali could possibly do what Lamon ****ing Brewster did.
     
  8. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    some balls you got there man.

    not as big as mine for my first thread i posted WAS ali a coward as in regards to his choice of not being in the ARMY even though he would of just done USO shows . but dam this ought to be hella funny

    cuz here comes a storm:hi:
     
  9. El Matador

    El Matador Your Boxing Authority Full Member

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    Ali was one of the greatest boxers of all time, both inside and outside the ring. Nobody but Sugar Ray Robinson really rivals Ali in terms of social importance to their era (Joe Louis, too).

    Ali had the style, grace, intelligence, speed, coordination, balance, timing to take ANY Heavyweight that ever lived. He had a chin, too. That's my opinion of the matter.
     
  10. aliwasthegreatest

    aliwasthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he was puffy, slow and kinda fat that night if you remember. and she peppered the guy for the entire fight with every punch he wanted to land. he went down on a fluke and finished out the fight just fine. is he the most perfectly great fighter ever? no. but probably the greatest heavyweight but obviously not unbeatable
     
  11. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  12. Mob

    Mob Active Member Full Member

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    Hey look.....anybody can beat anybody on a given day. And Wlad has flaws.

    But Ali is ****ing overrated.

    Yeah, he had Frazier, Foreman, Norton and a ton of others to contend with BUT,...he never had to contend with guys who were naturally 240 pounds with just as fast reflexes.


    Chuck Wepner, Oscar Bonevena, Henry Cooper, Joe Bugner and a slew of others would not have even been contenders in today's world.
     
  13. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Hey dickhead just cause you've been watchin the sport that long doesn't mean you know **** about it.

    And Ali didn't have the punch to hurt Wlad??? He had a punch to hurt Liston, Frazier, Patterson, Foreman, Lyle, Quarry, Moore, Bonavena, Williams, Mathis ect ect but not to hurt Wlad??? The biggest glass chin in the history of the heavyweight division???
     
  14. Mob

    Mob Active Member Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis KO 4 Ali.
     
  15. skier47

    skier47 Guest

    Ali could no more K.O. Wlad with a quick right than could Chris Byrd.
    Only very strong punchers ever even hurt Wlad let alone K.Oed him.
    Ali was always very candid in interviews about his lack of punching
    power and envied powerpunchers like Foreman. Ali would probably
    find a way to outbox Wlad over twelve grueling rounds but would
    never K.O. him. Wlad would be the one who might get the lucky
    K.O. Wlad remains the most underestimated heavyweight fighter
    maybe of all time. Once he slaughters the 6' 6 inch Thompson next
    he will again receive no respect.