Tony Zale vs the MW of the last 30 yrs

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  1. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    P.S. by the way S, why couldn't or didn't a Ray Robinson NOT ONCE give A Holman Williams, Charley Burley, Kid Tunero, Cocoa Kid, a money shot bout during Ray Robinson's great career ? Not once did SRR help out and give these worthies a bout, though they were better than most of SRR's opposition ? NOT ONCE did they get a chance to make decent money, but of course YOU S
    overlook this question because it doesn't fit your" holy "AGENDA.
    And Tony Zale after serving 4 years in the Navy, gets the "shaft" by you whilst Ray Robinson gets the silent treatment by you.
    A case of "selective " indignation by you...
     
    burt bienstock, Aug 22, 2015
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Go Get Um Burt!:good
     
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  3. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Strongest endorsement of Zale came from Georgie Abrams the day after their fight.
    "Zales the best I fought" said Abrams. TaKe a look at his murderers row resume, Cocoa Kid, Charlie Burley.
     
    SLAKKA, Aug 22, 2015
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  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Again I'm entitled to my f#cking opinion. I'm really really sorry it doesn't match yours I'm losing sleep over it LOL.
    In my book Marciano isn't sh%t and the only black fighters he had the b#lls to fight were over the hill. Your ass kissing of Marciano is plain weird at this point to put it nicely. Holmes was right all along Marciano couldnt carry his jock strap
     
    robert ungurean, Aug 22, 2015
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  5. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    which black(or white, blue or green) fighters did rocky not have the ba11s to fight?
     
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  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Nino Valdez
     
    robert ungurean, Aug 22, 2015
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  7. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    but he fought the guy who beat valdez and was ranked above him.

    if he had fought valdez there would be an actual argument that he ducked someone.
     
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  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    And everyone of the black murders row lost too so wats the difference. Like I said I'm entitled to my opinion Just like everyone else here.
     
    robert ungurean, Aug 22, 2015
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  9. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the difference is who was ranked where at hw at the time marciano was arranging the bout.

    is wlad ducking chisora, or is fury just rated higher?

    if your opinion is that marciano gets overrated, fair enough. If your opinion is that he didn't have the ***** to fight the best black guys you need a better example than someone who got beat by the black guy marciano did fight.
     
    kingfisher3, Aug 22, 2015
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  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    The point here isn't even about F#cking Marciano.
    My thread was simply how would Zale do against middleweight of the last 30 yrs!
    Now a certain someone here feels the need to turn everything into a race issue and a Marciano issue and force his opinions down everybody's throat.
    To me a fighter is a fighter period.
     
    robert ungurean, Aug 22, 2015
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  11. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    zale beats a few but loses to the noteable champs that followed him imo.

    no idea where the rest came from, you made a comment about marciano that can't be defended, white or black i'd have called you on it.
     
    kingfisher3, Aug 22, 2015
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  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Again I'm done on the subject of Marciano. If u want to start a thread on him b my guest. The thread is about Zale. And like I said I'm tired about race here. A fighter is a fighter period
     
    robert ungurean, Aug 22, 2015
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  13. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I didn't bring Marciano into it! That happened pages ago and I'm tired of it. For the last time and I won't adress it again so don't bother asking ..Valdez
     
    robert ungurean, Aug 22, 2015
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  14. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i only read this page, you posted something obviously wrong, it happened to be about rocky.

    you could just say 'fair enough, i think marciano is ovarrated but there isn't anyone he didn't have the ballz to fight' but then you would have to admit some form of fault, much easier to just imply i'm a racist then refuse to comment anymore.

    p.s it's my opinion that the sky is tartan with pink spots.
     
    kingfisher3, Aug 22, 2015
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  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Valdez ...and I do think he's overrated. Again this is about Zale if ur looking to argue with someone it's not something I want to waste my night on. If u want the back story here then read all the posts
     
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