Rodrigo Valdez vs Bernard Hopkins

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  1. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  2. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins wins WITHOUT DOUBT:deal..

    Valdez was champ from around 1974 and lost it in 1976, :huh, to think he would have a chance to beat a guy that was champ from 94-05 is just dumb:-(, not to mention he would have a significant disadvantage in size, reach, height, and over-all ability ..

    It;s pretty obvious who would win
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Almost a pick 'em but I shade towards Hop.

    Not overly impressed with Hopkins' reign at 160. Mercado wasn't near the puncher that Valdez was, and he had Hop down twice. Valdez was better battle-tested.

    I am going back and forth on this one... but a shade towards Hop.
     
  4. Bobthepen

    Bobthepen Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think Hopkins was hurt against Mercado. Just think the altitude caused him problems. 9500ft above sea level causes problems. I visited Quito and was knackered going up a flight of stairs.
     
  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes I think the altitude effected him in that fight as well. Just look at the rematch, Mercado landed clean counters on BHop but this time couldn't hurt him at all.

    I'd assume not being able to get enough oxygen to the brain would effect cognitive function and so the ability to take a punch maybe hampered.
     
  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    U don't know **** except stats go on YouTube and watch him fight idiot
     
  7. Warwick Hunt

    Warwick Hunt Active Member Full Member

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    So that's your criteria on how to judge this? How long they held their respective titles? not skill and talent wise what they actually bring to the table?
    I would have thought if Valdez was around in the last 10 years he would have held a belt pretty much as long as he wanted to.
    A very close fight,Hopkins would have his hands full.
     
  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Exactly..I slightly favor Valdez
     
  9. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Eras again guys. Outside of Rodrigo's penchant for cuts and his often slow starts he was the real deal.
    Hopkins didn't go thru what Valdez did. He turned pro in 1962 at age 16 and fought many 'wars' until given a chance (unlike Hopkins) in 1970 to come to the States.
    Hopkins was 'groomed' by modern standards. Valdez's deck was stacked against him as a youngster.
    Although I'll still put Monzon a tad above Valdez as an ATG, they were both past prime when they finally fought, and...Carlos DID wait a year or two before facing him...plus Valdez's brother was killed in a bar room brawl in Colombia a week or so before the first Carlos-Rodrigo fight. You don't think that, MIGHT, take a little wind out of your sails prior to the fight?
    Hopkins was exceptional, Valdes would defeat him.
     
  10. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I would slightly favor Hopkins here. Valdez was given problems by Monzon's size. Hopkins was bigger than Monzon and slicker too.
     
  11. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unless somebody goes out and tries to kill Valdez, he would usually wait on an opponent, not being the most aggressive...if he waits on Hopkins, he loses a clear decision.
     
  12. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Go F@CK YOURSELF, you don't know jack sh!t about ****, or you wouldn't have started such a dumba$$ thread to begin with..

    I don't need you tube to tell me who the better guy was, ive seen them both fight..

    The only ones that use you tube are losers like you who masturbate to porn, in your moms basement..

    Most guy's that answered your worthless thread picked Hopkins, what does that tell you sh!t for brains:nut

    Your as dumb as your name sounds...
     
  13. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's all that about? He started a reasonable thread between 2 great fighters why the hostility?
     
  14. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dunno about that. He looked hurt to me. (First fight.)
     
  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    FU#k u fu#kin Pu#sy u were an as#shole wen u came on this board and ur still an as#hole u sh#t for brains peice of sh#t. Go back to your cardboard box c#nt. Go masturbate to your g#y porn fa##it