Vernon Forrest(prime) vs. Pernell Whitaker(147 state).

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  1. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Forrest is too big and strong for a blown up LW
     
  2. jaco

    jaco Thomas Hearns Full Member

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    Im thinking Forrest by decision. Vernon was massive welterweight and a great long-range boxer. His rangy jab would keep Whitaker on the outside where he would be at a disadvantage (aswell as nullifying Whitaker's own jab).

    Pernell's best hope is to get on the inside of Forrest to nullify his size and jab. However, getting past Forrest's jab is easier said than done. Although i think Whitaker will get inside on occasions, they will be few and far between allowing Vernon Forrest to take more rounds.

    Forrest UD 7-5 in a tactical, competitive fight.
     
  3. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whitaker around the time of the McGirt fights (93-94) would have given Forrest a beating and a lesson on in-fighting.

    And not that it means that much, but Pernell was actually handling Vernon Forrest pretty easily in the gym in the lead up to his fight with DLH.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :good
     
  5. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Quartey got robbed against Forrest.

    Winky would have made Forrest look like an amateur.
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    That was a bad version of Forrest.
     
  7. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Winky is a great version of Quartey.

    *or at least a better version
     
  8. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    lets not forget this is a BIG orthodox fighter vs a small southpaw. The distance gap between these two would be pretty large. Forrest doesn't fight squared up like Trinidad and DLH do, both of them came straight at Whitaker with square shoulders and Whitaker was able to make a fight out of it with them who are 5'10 and 5'11

    Forrest is 6'0 or 6'1? and he doesn't fight straight up he fights on an angle and the only thing coming is a jab in your face.

    Would be an extremely hard match for Whitaker.....But hey...If Whitaker could dodge like 6-7 of DLH's blazing punches without getting scratched, I think he could make a fight out of this one. There is no way in hell I could count Whitaker out
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    The best version of Forrest beats the best version of Quartey, the best version of Forrest gives the best version of Wright a very good fight at 154, though I favour Wright.

    Anyway, discussion is about the 147 version of Pea vs. Forrest(prime), not Wright vs. Forrest.
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Can you give us a short fight plan SS?
     
  11. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    It's hard to choose anyone winning a Decision against Pea.
    but @ 147. Pernell was defo not the same same untouchable fighter he was at lightweight. that being said, danm!!! I don't know.

    147 Whitaker had underated punching power + his defense mixed in with his southpaw stance might give the taller fighter some probs?

    who knows for sure, but this is fantasy so I got
    Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker by Split decision.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure.

    Forrest actually meets someone that can upset his tempo by outdoing him with the jab. Once Pea controls the jabbing contest, he moves in with ease on Forrest and then takes total command with his infighting skills.
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    How's he going to outjab a great jabber with the reach and height advantage of Forrest to get his fight inside? And who's going to have the advantage in clinching and resetting?
     
  14. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look at the DLH fight Amsterdam if you want to see what he does to a great jabber with reach and height advantage. People are still harping on about an old past it DLH's jab today. Hark back 10 years when a prime DLH had his jab totally nullified by a past it Whitaker, who outscored him 4 punches to 1 with it.

    How did he do it? 1. the southpaw stance 2. having great defense and 3. and most importantly, his jab was, quite simply one of the best and most accurate weapons ever which never failed to take fighters out of their game.

    He did it to Roger Mayweather way back too. But I don't want to go there because that's a lightweight Whitaker.

    And would he have the advantage in the clinches? Well, he was very strong in the clinches. I never really saw him outdone there his whole career other than in the Vasquez fight. But Vasquez is a beast. Against the likes of DLH, Tito, Chavez, he was pretty much always the one in control in the clinch.