Lucas the quitter matthysse

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  1. Karl

    Karl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't fault Mathysse for quitting anymore than I fault Vitali for quitting against Byrd. Going blind doesn't only threaten your career, but your quality of life in a very significant and real way. Cuts, boken noses and **** like that, you fight through like a man. Continuing when you risk going blind is just mind numbingly stupid
     
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  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Quitthysse
     
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  3. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    I remember all his little fruitcake fans talking about him being so tough and such a terminator, yet the guy quits the first time he faces a bully.
     
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  4. MysticalNinja

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    Matty can't adapt. That is his biggest weakness. When Postol refused to go away and actually started to come on stronger Matthysse couldn't switch to a plan B because...well he didn't have one in the first place. All this and the frustration just lead to him going "No Mas" when he got KD.

    Matty can beat B-level guys but world class guys it seems are beyond him.
     
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  5. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't fault Lucas if he thought he was seriously hurt with potentially permanent visual damage.
    He seemed very concerned...I give him the benefit of the doubt unlike how Geale called it quits against Cotto!
    As well as when Morales called it a day on the canvas against Pacquiao.

    I almost lost vision in my eye during a fight...scary stuff!!!

    I take issue with the double standard Fanboys and we all know who they are.....!!!
     
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  6. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Matthy didnt want to win. That's all.
     
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  7. Ilesey

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    Luquit Glassquiteye
     
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  8. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I understand. Still it was his best chance for a world title and I think that physically he was able to win the fight. But mentally he was not up for the task. Chavez and Hoya quit when they were already certified ATGs and well passed their prime. Duran was a completely different case and so is in a way Mathysse. Still I wish him the best, boxing is an inhumanly hard sport.
     
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  9. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Into mathysse's brain:

    (round 7)

    (He throws a hard hand, postol's wobbling)->Wtf I barely touched him and he's wobbling. Dont go down you little bast***. What do I do? I better hit him in the arms and body... don't fall down don't fall down...

    (headbut) -> uffff I'm saved! I can now stop punching him.

    (10 seconds or so later) -> I have to throw something, or people will suspect... mmm I'll try a cross.

    (the cross makes postol wobble again) -> wft! i cannot touch this fckng 1d1ot! dont fall down!!

    (rest of the fight until 10) -> I better dont touch him or I will f*** everything up. 3 punches per round. And to the body, it's better not to take any risk... come on, guy, come on, hit me, hit me, 1d10t, hit me

    (round 10) -> this bast*** doesnt hit me hard enough to fake... wtf!! now! now! now! at last! my eye! my eye!...


    ohhh! I lost, I'm sooooo sorry.
     
    chacal, Oct 5, 2015
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I don't hold it against any boxer for quitting if they're taking a beating, injured, worried that something serious might be wrong with them or is going to happen if they continue. I don't even hold it against them if they just cave in under the weight of the psychological pressure when things aren't going their way and they can't see anyway of them turning it around. I even felt sorry for Tor Hamer when he quit on his stool against Glazkov after only 4 rounds and he was still in the fight and hadn't taken that much punishment at all. Nor did I stick the boot in when he did the same in against Andy Ruiz. I think he's a college boy and just isn't cut out for fighting. A lot of boxing fans seem to forget sometimes that boxing isn't just physically demanding it's also very mentally demanding too.

    Sure sometimes I find it puzzling when a fighter pulls out when they're still in the fight or aren't injured or haven't taken a real beating. The most recent instance of this I can think of when Luis Collazo quit against Thurman. But I wasn't the one who was in there taking the punches and I'm also aware that an awful lot of those who take up the sport probably quit after getting a bloody nose during their first sparring session or because they can't hack the gruelling training.

    Anyone who knows anything about Lucas wouldn't ever doubt his warrior credentials. Not only has he proven it in the ring time and time again, but he's also gone into his opponent's back yard/home country where the deck is stacked against him and in his opponent's favour many times. Where the referee and at least 2 if not all 3 judges come from the guy who's standing in the opposite corner of the rings country. That takes a lot of courage and mental fortitude, especially for someone who is essentially a shy and private person who doesn't feel comfortable in the limelight and is a bit of a loner and has already been robbed or hard done by numerous times during previous visits to the same country. What did I say about boxing being mentally demanding?
     
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