How good was RJJ at heavyweight?

This is exactly why Roy left after one fight. To create this myth. Roy hangs around in the heavy division he would of been knocked out in his next 2-3 fights. He didn't fight Douglas or Holyfield. He did a one and done on Ruiz.

 

It doesn't matter.

The guys that some ATG lost to would beat Jones.

There's a reason why Jones didn't stick around at HW.

 

Its really hard to say personally I think because of his talents he could beat a number of quality heavyweights on a given night but their always would be a chance of him getting knocked out. Eventually if he continued fighting as a heavyweight the size difference would've caught up to him.

 

cos it wasn't hios weight.

what do you expect a mw to do? lol jeez u want the moon on stick.

 

it would be a bridge too far, but I agree he shouldda not gone down again.

 

Give me the list whenever you feel free.

 

It might have been, the only real danger is Toney or Tyson by stoppage imo.

 

Name all the heavyweights Jones beat that were better than Ruiz.

 

He looked good against Ruiz. However, Ruiz was a perfect matchup stylewise for him. Ruiz was smallish, moderately skilled with moderate speed and below average punching power. It would have been interesting to see how Jones faired against a bigger, more powerfull heavy than Ruiz. Yes, Jones would have the speed advantage against just about anyone at that weight, but could he outbox the most dangerous heavys over the twelve round distance? I think a guy like Tua would have been very dangerous for him. If Lewis, for example, landed the right, I cringe to think what would have happened. Vitali, with a massive strength advantage, could have possibly smothered Jones.

 

Which is EXACTLY why he cherry picked Ruiz, and got the fuk out again quickly. Young Loudon would have you believe that Jones " seriously " considered fighting Lewis, Holy, and Tyson, but I don't buy it, due to the fact it was a mere 8 months between Ruiz, and Tarver, and don't forget he had to have a training camp for that fight, so you are talking about 6 and a half months max, of him deliberating on fighting one of those 3.

 

There's virtually no sampling of any scientific value on which to judge. He fought Ruiz and got out. It makes for a nice footnote in his career but we know squat about his worth @ heavy.

 

I'm not saying Jones would beat every HW. I'm saying on his day there's very few boxers in recorded history he couldn't defeat.

How many in history never lost to a man on par with Jones or worse?

 

So you think there's very few heavyweights he couldn't beat? Can't see any basis for such a claim given his only win over a heavyweight was against the mediocrity John Ruiz. He wouldn't even fight an old, post diabetic coma Buster Douglas which doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Of course many fighters lost to worse than Jones, but that's really damning Jones with feint praise. It's akin to saying a vast number of fighters could also beat Jones given there are many, many superior fighters to Griffin, Tarver, Johnson etc in recorded history.

 

He benefitted from a moribund division