If Robert Helenius beats Erkan Teper convincingly

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  1. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Teper also beat Ouatah - a fighter of more or less the size of Helenius with a decent amateur and Euro level pro background. Teper knows how to close the distance and he also fights well in clinches to the point of discouraging his opponent of constant clinching. Helenius' outpointing from distance with the jab tactic won't work as good as it did vs Chisora who's more or less clueless in a fight unless he can get his opponent to brawl.
     
  2. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Want me to dig out your posts where you ridicule Haye for his broken toe? :lol: At the very least I expect you to be consistent.
     
  3. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Yeah definitely. I've gotten the chance to watch more of Teper lately, mostly on YouTube, and I like what I see.

    I really don't think Helenius will rely on outpointing in this match. He did during and after the Chisora match, but mostly I believe due to the wretched injuries he was enduring. These latest matches I see him getting back to the pummeling and thrashing style of old.

    At least I hope so. I really don't have much of a favorite in this match as much as I just wanna see the best fight and man moving forward and the heavyweight division looking healthy.
     
  4. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Helenius was severely injured though, and maybe hasn't even returned yet. They had to remove portions of his shoulder and replace the muscle with muscle from various other areas of his body. It was just completely deadened muscle in his shoulder at that point, and then broken wrists, hands, and knuckles in the following matches. He's had a rough go of it until recently returning.
     
  5. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't take the fight then!? Or postpone it? How is it on anyone but him and his team? With accepting the fight, he subjects himself to having his performance judged. I assume he was ill-advised to go into a fight supposedly injured but c'est la vie.
     
  6. Glass Joe

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    Yeah, he injured his hand and fractured his arm during the match, but his promoter basically pushed him into the ring with a terrible shoulder injury by way of threatening them before the Chisora match.

    This, from 2012-13 or so...

    "According to news reports, in the worst-case scenario, Helenius’s boxing career may now be over.

    Helenius’s father Karl is quoted today saying in the Helsingen Sanomat saying that his son’s shoulder injury revealed itself six weeks prior to the fight with Chisora, and that the fight taking place when it did was a “major ****-up.”

    Karl Helenius also blames trainer Ulli Wegner of Sauerland sports for pushing his son to fight Chisora even after the shoulder injury became an issue.

    A fall while running saw Helenius snap a ligament in his right shoulder, with subsequent damage to two other ligaments and collarbone as the injury worsened.

    Helenius also suffered an injury to the knuckles of his right fist early in the Chisora fight. Little wonder, then, that the fighter did not possess his usual devastating knockout power that night."
     
  7. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    I'm not blaming anyone or making an excuse, I'm just explaining why. It's on him if he goes in injured. No disagreement here.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Love this fight. For me this is 50/50. Helenius is a big wildcard since we've seen nothing of him for a long time. Teper is crude and wild. If Helenius can control him from the outside he can easily outbox him. If Helenius is as lazy with the jab as vs. Chisora he will get knocked out silly.
     
  9. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Both are crushing punchers. I see it the same, although watching the latest Helenius matches it seems that he's back to bullying people around, throwing body shots, and crushing head shots.

    Teper...well, we all saw what happened to Price and his inability to find his senses after Teper dislocated them from his head.
     
  10. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Seriously, Haye's pinky toe and Helenius' shoulder injury. That's not even remotely in the same league
     
  11. Glass Joe

    Glass Joe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Yes, one (Helenius) was almost a career ending injury and the other (Haye) was an excuse to end a career. hehe
     
  12. raksa

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  13. The Long Count

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  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Helenius is going to beat this guy one sided.
     
  15. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    If so it'll be interesting to see if he aims to take the shortest route to a belt. He may want to avoid stay busy fights and the like and roll the dice.