Cotto isn't even close to ATG

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Slyk, Nov 24, 2015.


  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    His career was carefully managed in the way they matched him to get him those huge fights. That's why despite being favoured by many to beat Pacquiao the difference in quality was there for all to see. Your right in asserting that Pac is an ATG but the point still stands.

    We hear a lot about his titles in different divisions but less so about who he beat to get them pre a disabled martinez who was ripe for the picking and cashing out.

    I thought Clottey beat him and so do many other people. The same could be said for the Mosley fight although I don't consider that a robbery. It could have legitimately gone either way. What these fights have in common is that neither had a prayer of getting a decision for fear of upsetting the Cotto gravy train.

    He was well matched against faded versions of good fighter and mediocre but well ranked opposition. He's not the only one and I wouldn't single him out if he wasn't the recipient of such continual gushing praise.
     
  2. alexgtshp

    alexgtshp Active Member Full Member

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    Cotto takes lots of heat for his personality and his lack of willingness to be a public figure and a "peoples Champ". He is a sure Hall of Famer and a boxing great, he is not a boxing ATG. I believe no modern era can boxer can be equated to the ATGs that we know right now. Two distinctly types of boxing, it used to be for the glory, the honor, the recognition of beating the best of the best. Now it is a business, how much money can I make, how popular can I be. Who do we acknowledge as the best? Whoever sells more tickets, brings in more money, the most likable. If there were a new era of ATGs, separate from what are obviously incomparable feats by legendary fighters and if these new criteria I previously mentioned were the qualifications for all time great, then we'd have lots of excellent candidates for the new class of ATGs.
     
  3. Hi-Tek-Lomo

    Hi-Tek-Lomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's one of the most entertaining fighters of this era but he is not an ATG.
     
  4. p4p_kid

    p4p_kid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i laughed way too hard on this:yep
     
  5. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Imo he is a first ballot HF. His resume is incredible and he has jump up weight divisions and win belts in four weights. Casual boxing fan doesn´t really understand what he has done. For example his fight against Canelo.

    When cotto was at the same age as Canelo is now, he was fighting at 140!! It was his optimal weight. He went 20 pounds to win a MW title. You could see the size difference against Canelo - he won the contest even though he lost the fight. Imagine if Canelo would do the same and you saw him fighting at LHW title in 9 years?!
     
  6. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This doesn't really seem to be true at all. For the most part, Cotto fought the opponents that the boxing public wanted him to face and didn't really duck many, if any, opponents. Who should he have fought that he didn't fight?