Study Your History: Deonatay Wilder = Michael Grant

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  1. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Desperate to have an American HW champion, Michael Grant was built up as the next big thing and touted as a potential threat to Lennox Lewis.

    Unfortunately, Grant did not have the fighting hart or the punch resistance to challenge LL.

    The same will happen if Wilder takes on Tyson Fury in my opinion. Can Wilder take a punch and will he wilt if Tyson Fury takes him in to the trenches?

    Stop hyping Wilder until this questions have been answered!
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Yep.... And Grant actually had more talent than Wilder does.
     
  3. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah Grant is actually superior
     
  4. Hi-Tek-Lomo

    Hi-Tek-Lomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder is packing glass but he's quick and has a quick jab and he's long and aggressive. In order to beat him you're probably going to have to get inside on him where he is basically useless.
     
  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Wilder has to look up to see Grant. Grant beat Demetrice King. King is demonstrably supperior to Wilder.
     
  6. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see the idiots are back in full force.
     
  7. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes, they are both over 6'6, both black American fighters. And that's pretty much it.
     
  8. Gunde Svan

    Gunde Svan Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think Grant would get by Stiverne.
     
  9. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Based on what?
     
  10. XCalibur79

    XCalibur79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    These guys are morons.

    Grant actually might have been great, but he picked the wrong man to fight stupid against. Lennox Lewis destroyed him. He was never the same after that, that messed him up mentally.

    I don't see Wilder getting low and standing in front of someone like Lewis, at least has never done it in his career.

    And even if Wilder was Grant, he still might be an undisputed champ and have a great career. Because there is no Lennox Lewis in the HW division right now, there may not have been one in history to be honest. Anthony Joshua has the potential but that's about it.
     
  11. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As far as "hype" goes, they have very similarities.Grant probably had the better skill-set but Wilder has better athleticism and maybe better power.
     
  12. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Actually, Tyson Fury had more similarities to Michael Grant until last night. Grant and Wilder don't really have much in common, I think its a lazy, quasi racist comparison made simply because both are hyped, tall black HW's.

    Grant and Tyson similarities (before last nights fight)
    Non belt holders
    Challenging respected champions
    Champions were big, but not as big
    Champions had much more power
    Challengers represented a possible generation increase in size
    Challengers had good but not great power
    Challengers were knocked down a couple times against some of their better competition

    Meanwhile, about all Grant and Wilder have in common is their race and the fact they were both really tall. Grant had a very good resume for a non belt holder challengers. Wilder's resume is criticized, with some justification, because he's a belt holder. Grant didn't have remotely the power that Wilder had. And it looks like Wilder will never fighter a more established, respected long term champ like Grant did. If he loses, it will be more to a peer, rather than being exposed by a long lasting ATG representing a defeat of a generational change.

    I always thought the Grant Wilder ****ogy was lazy and bad, and it got even worse after last night.
     
  13. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder has no inside game. Fury would rough him up on the inside.
     
  14. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see DW destroying fury just like he'd destroy wlad.
    Talking Ko within 6. Been saYing this for years and it'll happen soon enough.

    Exactly like I was being blasted for saying trip G was a beast, I'll get sh!the for this. Bethe the house and every family membe Rd s house and retireven rich. Because fury out pointed a very old and slow wlad he'll be thstripped favorite, which is laughable
     
  15. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Wilder is a poor man's version of Michael Grant. Grant, at least, fought and beat some decent fighters prior to being exposed. As soon as Wilder faces a live body, he will knocked out early just like Grant was.