Was Hector Camacho the best pure boxer of the last 40 years?

Why would he be joking? Who kicked who's ass in the ring?

People like you want to say Ray Leonard was beter than Marvin Hagler because of a split win. In fact, they insist on it! They insist that it has to be Ray Leonard who owned the 1980's,, who was the top fighter of the 80's even though we all know Hagler was shot to pieces before Leonard would take a fight with him.

So then, how much more can BrownPimp and I lay claim to the fact that Norris is superior to Leonard due to the domination he showed over the 3-1 favorite??

Don't you remember: Hagler was a 3-1 favorite over leonard which is something you never let the rest of us forget. Now you can't handle the fact when the tables are turned!!

I'm sorry your boy got so messed up in this fight and then again in his next fight to my main man Camacho. Maybe he shouldn't have turned in such a scintillating and dominating performance in uno mas. :smoke

 

True, there's you, and Redfeatherduster as well.

 

Truth is bad living caught up with Chandler and he didn't even look like the man he had been not long prior. Hell, he barely threw punches back against a relatively inexperienced foe. In his third defense Richie was belted down 5 times by an opponent, a very very good one, that Jeff had beaten in fine style a year before the Sandoval fight.

 

Rooster. I see my post has been well and truely ducked.

 

Where have you been? I was starting to miss your idiotic posts.

Dana Rosenblatt is twice the athlete Terry Norris ever was.

 

What bad living are you talking about? I never heard of this bad living you just brought up. This is another fight you probably just read about and can't bring yourself to admit lost to the better man. Head to head Richard owned him but you didn't realize without seeing the fight so please just let me do all the talking.

I too am a Chandler fan but I have to be honest and admit Richard ruined him in the first couple of minutes in this West coast-East coast matchup. He caught him and backed him straight up in the manner of a fighter who is badly hurt. Richie then worked him over on the ropes mercilessly and Jeff was lucky he made it past the first bell. The rest, Richard beat him to it every round so Jeff could never get any offense going and when he tried Richard had the perfect solution to that too-he tied him up which is why Jeff spent so much time complaining to the ref.

Next time put the blame where it belongs: on the winner. Prpeparation and practice in the gym and putting together the perfect plan devised by Richard Montoya. Unless you are Muhammud Ali, reknowned for being a punching bag the last 3 years you don't have an excuse for losing when you are dominated.

 

I own the fight you silly featherduster. And in the case of just accepting things and the better man won best you start accepting Leonards schooling of Hagler in that case

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Close fight or not, Leonard did school Hagler. His ring generalship was superior as was his defense. He slowed down during the late rounds and was caught, but he made Hagler look like a slow plodding fool. Those quick flurries were scoring points. When it comes to variety, not even close, Leonard by a country mile.

 

And IMO I'm one of the most unbiased posters around. I don't favour any of the fab four over one another when it comes to fair and constructed views. I'm a Hagler fan, he's higher up on my favs list than Leonard.

 

But you didnt describe any of it so you don't own it.

If I'm wrong go on and describe the fight to me. I have no problems describing the action. And a schooling isn't a disputed decision in which most people dissagree with the decision. Terry Norris Ray Leonard is a schooling because nobody ever disputes who won.

Norris and Camacho ****ed up Ray leonard and his reputation for all time. I still have nightmares about it even tho I am no fans of his. Every time I dream it I think this time it will be different and Ray Leonard can at least reclaim a part of his former glory before he met with the Norris's and Camachos of the world but he never does. I think the knockout by Camacho really quieted down his supporters. It's one thing to lose a close decision that can easily be disputed but to knocked out! There's nothing more damaging to a fighter's reputation than when he is knocked out.

 

Yeah because you are the mr know it all right you ****wat. Why is it the general consensus that every poster here has to treat Leonard like an invincible god. He's not as fast as norris, not even close you dip****.

 

Yeah but why couldnt Leonard deal with Terry Norris's handspeed and pure boxing ability, he all of a sudden turns into an aged shot person, without taking a serious beating?

 

You have walked right into this one. How about Norris getting stopped by Mullings. He was only 30 years old and hadn't taken any serious beatings beforehand. Infact, Norris was perfoming very well until he was beaten by journeyman, Mullings.

Norris took a beating from Mullings, especially down the stretch.

Leonard was 34 years old when beaten by Norris, who himself was an up and coming great fighter. And Leonard hadn't fought at the weight for 7 years. Norris was youthful and coming into his prime.

Norris was only 30 years old when beaten by Mullings. And lets not forget Mullings wasn't an up and coming great fighter like Norris was when he beat Leonard. Mullings was a journeyman.

Great athletic and pure boxers better than Leonard don't get their asses handed to them by journeyman.

Did you read my earier poem about Humpty Dumpty Norris :good


I REST MY CASE.

 

Did I claim Norris to be the greater fighter, no. His chin was his downfall, but it still doesnt change the fact that he's a bad matchup for the 'god' ray leonard.

When they fought, Terry Norris was the one coming off the devastating ko loss, while ray Leonard was relaxing after taking paychecks against Duran and Lalonde. Not to mention that his fight with Hearns was very close, not the one sided robbery that everybody tries to make it out to be.

When Pernell Whitaker got older, he lost a close fight to prime de la hoya and took a beating from the much bigger Trinidad. But did he get outboxed handily and shutout like the way Leonard did, nope. By the way Whitaker was coming off a two year layoff and cocaine charges when he fought Trinidad and he was still able to win 3-4 rounds against a bigger opponent, and he was the same age Leonard was at that point in his career.

 

Originally Posted by brownpimp88

Norris would always give Leonard hell, better athlete and better pure boxer.

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My response Below.


You have walked right into this one. How about Norris getting stopped by Mullings. He was only 30 years old and hadn't taken any serious beatings beforehand. Infact, Norris was perfoming very well until he was beaten by journeyman, Mullings.

Norris took a beating from Mullings, especially down the stretch.

Leonard was 34 years old when beaten by Norris, who himself was an up and coming great fighter. And Leonard hadn't fought at the weight for 7 years. Norris was youthful and coming into his prime.

Norris was only 30 years old when beaten by Mullings. And lets not forget Mullings wasn't an up and coming great fighter like Norris was when he beat Leonard. Mullings was a journeyman.

Great athletic and pure boxers better than Leonard don't get their asses handed to them by journeyman.

Did you read my earier poem about Humpty Dumpty Norris :good


I REST MY CASE.