Sugar Ray Leonard Resume

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  1. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Welcome Brutal!

    I have always been a big SRL fan for many reasons, one of those reasons was for a slick speedster he was also pretty tough which was often overlooked.
     
  2. Brutal_Art

    Brutal_Art New Member Full Member

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    Thank you :thumbsup

    Yes, his performance against Duran in the first fight was about as tough a showing as you will ever see. He did well to keep his cool and not get drawn into dirty tactics as well, Duran used his head a lot in that fight from what I recall
     
  3. Brutal_Art

    Brutal_Art New Member Full Member

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    I have just watched Sugar Ray Leonard's 20th win, a win over a fighter called Gant. A mediocre performance by Leonard who was very flat footed {for him} and struggled to land with much significance. However when he got Gant hurt the finish was brilliant. What a killer instinct he had. His combination of hooks and uppercut's was mesmerising.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    SRL was certainly a special fighter, speed, skills, power, chin and a killer instinct
    are a rare combination to see in one fighter.

    And I think for the most part, the only reason he's generally ranked below Duran is because of the relative limited number of fights he fought. Had he fought another 20-30 fights or so, and won the vast majority of them against quality opposition, he may very well have been in most people's top 5.
     
  5. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Leonard fought-

    Benitez KO15
    Duran L15, KO9, and W12
    Hearns KO14 and D12
    and Hagler W12

    Going 5-1-1 (3) vs. these men is amazing.

    ...but he also beat-

    Dlck Ecklund W10
    Floyd Mayweather KO10
    Randy Shields W10
    Tony Chiaverini KO4
    Pete Ranzany KO4
    and Andy Price KO1 among others before winning his first world title.

    He also beat-

    Dave Green KO4
    Larry Bonds KO10
    Ayub Kalule KO9
    Bruce Finch KO3
    Kevin Howard KO9
    and Donny Lalonde KO9

    Decent list of fighters but Benitez, Duran x3, Hearns x2, and Hagler is so good that nothing else really matters. If I had to pick a couple more I guess they would be Kalule and Lalonde. They were impressive wins vs. pretty good fighters.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I still have a hard time giving SRL credit for beating Lalonde considering he made him defend his 175 lb title at 168.
     
  7. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beyond the obvious these guys were all top 10 contenders at the time of the fight: Mayweather, Shields, Muniz, Gant, Viruet, Chiaverini, Ranzany, Price, and Green

    Geraldo was unranked but a bigger man so that's a good win. Viruet was older and smaller but at least a southpaw.

    Muniz and Shields were the class of the group. Muniz was a bad call away from being a champion and gave Carlos Palomino hell. Shields was tough and slick; the hearns fight makes for interesting viewing. I think he had an amateur win over Ray or am I remembering something that didn't happen?

    It's a very, very solid collection of fighters. I'm not a Dundee fan but he was a tremendous matchmaker. By the time Ray got a title shot he had been in with every type of boxer you could want.
     
  8. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It really was an impressive run on the way to the title.

    Shields had a win over SRL in the amateurs, yeah. Gave him a tough fight as a pro, too. Still, Leonard did well to face and defeat him so early into his career. Muniz was just about at the end of his career, but was still good enough to have challenged for a world title in his previous fight. Ranzany was a mainstay in the Top 10 rankings, as was Price.

    Interestingly, his counterpart (Tommy Hearns) faced a similar level of competition on the way up, beating Clyde Gray, Harold Weston, Bruce Curry, Angel Espada, Eddie Gazo, Saensak Muangsuarin, and Mike Colbert. It could be stated that between the two, they completely cleaned out a pretty solid welterweight division by the time they faced one another in 1981.
     
  9. lora

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    yeah, Hearns and Leonard were matched perfectly in the context of their divisions at the time.Both faced good variety of styles from increasingly competitive fighters.

    As far as the outright quality of win on Leonard's record outside the all-time great wins....

    Kalule is the best one.A very good and still often underrated fighter with excellent skills who was undefeated at the time.Leonard was really the only fighter to beat him as a pro when he wasn't dead at 154 or outright past his prime.

    Shields and Ranzany were solid Welters beaten in their prime by Ray.Not spectacular fighters by any means, but definitely the kind that could have had a decent run of title fights win some\lose some in a weaker era.Think the level of 95% of recent Welter champs outside Mayweather and Pac.

    Muniz was better than that.He was very good at his best, a very tough, stamina-laden swarmer\slugger with good power.He looked slightly faded in the Leonard fight, coming on the heels of his second brutal highly competitive, lengthy fight with Palomino, yet nonetheless a very good win for prospect Ray and strong, intelligent fightmaking.

    Price was a fine fighter too and most famous for his ten round wins over Palomino and Cuevas.A skillful outfighter who could be very sharp on his day, though he'd shown flaws in pacing and consistency in losing to a few fighters he probably should have beat, often in tight decisions.The Leonard fight was a bit of a rebuilding one for him, he had a few things to prove and Ray just destroyed him.

    Those 4 Welters would all be at the top of the division in recent years.

    Guys like Chiaverini and even Lalonde weren't very good, but were bigger than Ray and solid wins in context, though the Lalonde bout had it's own brand of bull**** title poaching involved.175 had some very average champs and top contenders at the time tbh, but the size difference still made wins over fighters like Lalonde and Andries solid for Leonard\Hearns.
     
  10. Nighttrain

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    Napoles was a drunk?
     
  11. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    Early on his opponents were vetted by Angelo Dundee, who did a masterful job of picking higher profile opponents which Leonard was both ready for , but also from whom he would learn.
     
  12. salsanchezfan

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    Not to cast aspersions, but he was known in boxing circles as "Mr. Thirsty."
     
  13. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most of the top 10 was relatively weak when Leonard reigned at 147 lbs. But there were some elite champs like Benitez, Hearns and Duran, and he beat them all. So, he is lauded as a top historical 147 lb. champ for those great wins.
     
  14. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On that subject, Dundee vetoed an earlier fight with Hearns, on the grounds that Ray wasn't yet ready for Tommy, and added that it would be a superfight a few years later.
     
  15. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    The division was pretty solid when he entered:
    Pipino Cuevas
    Pete Ranzany
    Randy Shields
    Harrold Weston
    Floyd Mayweather
    Bruce Curry
    Davey Boy Green
    Thomas Hearns
    Clyde Gray
    John Stracey
    Johnny Gant
    Angel Espada
    Andy Price