Robert Helenius is a bum, not even top-30 heavyweight

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  1. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why are people overrating this bum?

    - Limited power
    - No footwork
    - No head movement
    - Easy to hit
    - Slow hands, no reflexes
    - Robotic

    I can name easily 30 heavyweights who would beat Helenius right now.

    Even someone like Duhaupas would win at least 8-9 rounds against this guy.

    As soon as he steps up, he will lose badly.

    Both Fury's win 12-0.
     
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  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What's your current top-10 at HW?
     
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  3. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Tyson Fury
    2. Alexander Povetkin
    3. Wladimir Klitschko
    4. Bryant Jennings
    5. Kubrat Pulev
    6. Carlos Takam
    7. Deontay Wilder
    8. Alexander Ustinov
    9. Joseph Parker
    10. Hughie Fury
     
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  4. SmackDaBum

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    He is. can't deny his power.
     
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  5. theanatolian

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    His power and chin is more than enough to be a top30 HW. And he beats Ustinov.
     
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  6. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What power? 22-0 with only 13 KO's.

    He couldn't KO Michael Sprott, who has been knocked out 20 times. This Rill guy, not a top-100 heavyweight, wins 3-4 rounds tonight. He couldn't KO him as well. He might have been powerful 5-6 years ago, but his power is gone now.
     
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  7. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good list, but I think there should be Joshua instead of Ustinov
     
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  8. satchmo

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    Helenius nowadays is very slow and robotic. Takes a lot of shots and doesnt let his hands go. He is somewhere in the top 40-50 range.
     
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  9. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes possibly, but I am not sold on Joshua yet. Would like to see him fight Ustinov next year though.
     
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  10. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    No, Rill didn't wanna trade with him because of the power.
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

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    He would knock Wilder out cold though.

    A lot of what you say is true, and I would add that he doesn't get the most out of his jab, and is slow. But,

    He's big
    He's strong chinned
    Good amatuer background
    Wins over 3 former titleists and a host of good journeymen
    Mad power in his right (when healthy) and in good power his hook

    It all depends on whether he gets the right hand back completely. He may very well not, in which case, no, he isn't going anywhre. but, its early yet in his comeback, and he is young for a man of his size. Give him two more years.
     
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  12. ursus maritimus

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    Unbeaten record with good names. **** of..
     
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  13. theanatolian

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    And who has Hughie Fury beaten to be a top10 HW if Helenius not top30?

    Or Ustinov, for that matter.
     
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  15. Absolutely!

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    He lost to Chisora. **** off yourself.
     
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