Luis Ortiz is on steroids

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  1. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let's face it guys. He has the classic steroid physique. I saw it right away. His stack probably includes Dianabol. He has the vascular shoulders despite being chubby, big shoulders and traps (there are more androgen receptors in these muscle groups), the oily thick and strange looking skin, bloated face/retaining lots of water.

    He's also been caught before and JDJ thinks he's still on them aswell:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FlwYKVhO2M

    However, he doesn't exactly look like Hercules does he? The reason why is that his stack is optimized for strength not hyperthrophy, he has ****ty genetics and an equally ****ty diet.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was caught once, so, yeah, probably.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I wouldn't doubt he gets caught in the post fight test after his fight tonight
     
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  4. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's been caught once before so it's likely that he is still continuing to use between fights when there is no testing.

    How a fighter gets caught in the US in the first place is baffling you have to be a fool to get caught when there is no random testing. It's easy to simply cycle off prior to a fight when you will be tested, athletes get away with doping for years with random testing, how on earth do you get caught if you know when you will be tested?
     
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  6. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Why allow Jennings to take the fight if you think he's a roider?
    IMO they're all on the juice.
     
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  7. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Does have the look of a guy who is on a ped stack. The dude is 36, has had plenty time to quietly jack himself up and has been caught once already, and to be caught in the US is quite and achievement in itself.
     
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  8. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    For that reason alone Deontay will not be giving him a title shot. Like the champ said, he has no respect for cheats.
     
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  9. TKO6

    TKO6 Boxcar for life Full Member

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    If he has been caught once he should not be boxing again, any boxer caught using PED's should never be allowed in the ring again it's playing with peoples lives.

    I don't buy into this "they are all on the juice" line as well, it kind of justifies it to a point and I don't think it's true.
    Yes some countries may have more than others but not every professional sports man / woman wants to sully their achievements by cheating.

    Even in America which I personally believe has a higher proportion than most of PED cheats it will certainly not be the majority that are using.
     
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  10. edouardleniqueu

    edouardleniqueu Active Member Full Member

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    Funny I didn't know he had ben caught before for PED use, but today his physique struck me as much more muscular and defined compared to the Kayode fight 1 year ago, so I thought that yeah he might be on something
     
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  11. 4themind

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    Thing is , is that he's been in the VADA random testing program in the run up to this bout. So if he's been tested randomly & wasn't caught during that period,I doubt he'll test positive now after the fight.Ostensibly, the same things are being tested, and who knows what else is out there, but this may be the best we will feasibly get for now.
    Just to note that this isn't a commentary on what he's taken before, but if he's kept up this level of power & strength currently under this testing, then that's important information to consider as well.
     
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  12. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    They're all on the juice, but you don't even have to question Ortiz. Dude has already been caught.
     
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  13. Hi-Tek-Lomo

    Hi-Tek-Lomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They had VADA testing for this fight
     
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  14. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Ortiz gets caught again, his career is done, so he has more reasons to stay off the juice than most people.
     
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  15. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It probably says more about VADA testing than anything else.
     
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