Some people need to make up there minds. First, they complain GGG sucks, when no elite fighters want to step up. Many think Lara beat Canelo, many think Canelo beat Lara, it's safe to say they are equals and easily the best in or around their divisions. 154-168 are not very strong divisions, I'm sure Canelo or Lara would be favored to beat most.
Timing does beat speed but faster better pure boxers than GGG couldn't land consistently on Alvarez, what makes you think GGG can? You bring up Lemieux but David does not have one elite level win on his resume, GGG has fought journeymen and never were's can't accurately measure how he'd fair against actual top fighters based off that.
350 amateur fights with very few losses that include wins over Bute and Dirrell mean something to me... that's a lot of experience. A lot of different styles. But you're right. Gennady has never faced a world class opponent, but he is destroying those who aren't world class... which is another good indicator. We've gone through this before though. If you want to pick apart GGG's resume, we can do the same to Canelo. So, let's look at the results against his best opponents to date. An extremely tough fight against Lara who many felt Canelo lost. Another controversial win against Trout. Really, how does Canelo fair against actual top fighters? The two best fighters he's faced are Mayweather and Cotto. He lost almost every single round against Mayweather- if not every. He beat Cotto in a competitive fight, but didn't look spectacular against the much smaller man. He didn't even hurt him. This is the same dude who was hurt by Mayweather and knocked out by smaller opponents. And Canelo who out-weighed Cotto, who looked like a giant, couldn't hurt him. Cotto is one of Canelo's best wins but even he isn't even close to a Mayweather level. Cotto has lost his biggest fights. He had a lot of hype due to his wins over Martinez and Geale but come on... most boxing fans know that Cotto's "rejuvenation" had just as much to do with carefully picked opponents as Roach being his new trainer. And with all that said, Canelo still didn't look spectacular against him. Golovkin doesn't have the opponents that Canelo has, but when Canelo has faced the best opponents, he isn't making a statement as a world class fighter either. Also, who has Canelo faced who is much a better boxer than GGG? Mayweather? Uhm, Mayweather landed consistently. Lara (really, Lara)??? Canelo arguably lost. Who then? However, you look at Canelo's biggest fights...Mayweather, Cotto, Lara, Trout, Angulo... how do you think Golovkin would fare against all of them? Honestly. Resume's aside and just looking at pure skill. You think he'd do worse than Canelo? Golovkin knocks out all of them, imo. But turn it around. How would Canelo fare against Golovkin's best opponents? Murray, Lemieux, Rubio. Even though these fighters are not as "word class" as Canelo's, do you think Canelo would do a BETTER job than GGG at disposing them (KO10, K08, KO2)...if he even could. All in all, yes. Canelo has had "better opponents" but I think Canelo's wins are vastly overrated considering many of his biggest fights were controversial, an embarrassing loss, or underwhelming. So, if you're going to pick apart Golovkin's resume to expose hype then let's pick apart Canelo's too to expose just as much hype.
Abuffy its easier to look good vs journeymen than vs top fighters, if you fight enough top opponents clpse figts happen. You can't bash Alvarez for having a tough fight vs guys considered elite when GGG has never even fought a elite opponent. Also styles make fights Alvarez may not beat them in the same way but there is noone on GGG's resume that woukd be picked to beat Canelo, inversely GGG is making excuses about facing a Canelo opponent Lara. Pacquiao beat some Mayweather opponents in better fashion but head to head we saw how that played out. That am stuff does not mean anything thing am success dodnt stop Khan from getting KTFO by Garcia bringing it up is just an excuses used because GGGs resume is trash. If GGG was so sure as you were he wouldn't have 50 excuses for Lara, would also lose to Mayweather at 154. More is told about a fighter from having a close win over a Pacquiao type than from blowing out a jo jo Dan type.
Acie2g, how do you think GGG would fair against Cotto, Lara, Trout, Angulo? You already said he'd lost to FMJ at 154. How about the others?
acie, do you even watch golovkin fights or are you just talking just to talk? canelo looked like **** in all of his big fights.. he got embarrassed by floyd, he got embarrassed by lara, the trout fight was controversial, and angulo..... there's not one ounce of footage or any name on canelo's resume that makes me think he would even be competitive with golovkin. you think floyd can beat him huh? all of floyd's closest fights were against people with good jabs who can cut off the ring. golovkin cuts the ring off better than anyone i've ever seen on film and IMO his jab is top 10 in history
According to people on here, it doesn't matter because Golovkin hasn't used his jab against any top opponents so how would we know if it really is one of the best jabs.
The way he's acting Alvarez is NOT a typical Mexican fight anyone anywhere type fighter hence his new name El Pollo Canelo. Never met a Mexican fighter before the enters the ring fight night around 170 pounds that refuses to fight at 160 limit Have you ?
I think canelo vs GGG is great fight. I give the edge in boxing ability and hand speed to canelo and power to GGG. I consider them both boxer punchers with canleo being a tad bit better in the boxing department and GGG tad bit better in the punching. Now canelo is way to damn big to be trying to fight GGG at 155. He needs to fight GGG at 160 canelo is not small. I just hope canelo don't think he can do GGG what he did to Kirkland. But with those 2 guys skill set and style how could it not be a great fight at the very very least a good one ?
It is the best fight that could be made for Golovkin at this point. I think the only advantage that Canelo has over Golovkin is hand speed and that would make the early rounds surprising competitive to some. Golovkin is actually the slightly better boxer; he cuts the ring much better, has a better jab, and is comparable to Canelo in counter punching and defense. GGG has big advantages in footwork and power. GGG dominates Canelo in the championship rounds to a decision or even a stoppage.
