Chance in the Fury rematch.

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  1. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad also let hands fly when he had Peter and Byrd both hurt in each rematch.

    He really turned it up both times, ending both fights thrn and there if I recall correctly
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I know you're mentally challenged and have an agenda here, but you know as well as I know fighters often develop problems with timing and pulling the trigger late into their careers.
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No , you can't say that. Not when Wlad performed the same in the prime of his career.

    There's a case if he was some high work rate volume puncher , but he never was , so there is no case for him suddenly being unable to pull the trigger. He was prevented from pulling the trigger.
    He was always reluctant to pull the trigger if the jab wasn't lining up the right hand. This worked on men shot to bits and C levelers who had zero movement.
    He didn't know what to do against Williamson over the movement. Whats the excuse for that fight?
    Whats the excuse for him unwilling to commit against Iggy? Both fights in the prime of his life and under Manny Steward.

    You simply don't understand this here fight game. You've spent years trying to explain away Wlads loss to Brewster because he 'punched himself out'.

    Now you're in here claiming Wlads solution to Fury is what brought about his downfall against Brewster.

    You see , you're just a fanboi. A K2 fanboi at that , which makes you the worst type of fanboi out there.
    Fanboi's are not boxing fans. They make childish , juvenile excuses because they follow an individual and not the sport.
     
  4. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad has to get MEAN, NASTY and RUDE vs Fury. He has to spit water on Fury like Chisora did to him. He has to land a low blow in the first round. He has to hit Fury in the back of his head. He has to talk smack about Fury's mother, father, brother, and Jesus. In other words, he has to get into Fury's tiny reptile brain and F0Ck with it.

    But he won't. So it's probably another Fury win.
     
  5. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Solid post but I still believe that the jab needs to be established before lead punches(of any kind) will land consistently...especially when you're fighting someone like Fury.
     
  6. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Fury can easily anticipate when Wlad is going to throw his punches. Fury sees it and avoids it without trouble. He has some trouble landing clean on Wlad but lands more. Fury would never and will never be beaten by Wlad as long as he is switched on. He's a better boxer than Wlad. He's actually loose and can move and box. Wlad is just repeating the same few drills over and over again. That isn't enough against Fury.
     
  7. madballster

    madballster VIP Member Full Member

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    Very true. Fury can easily anticipate. And Wlad did NOT counter any of Furys punches. ZERO! Fury could throw random punches with impunity and he knew Wlad goes into survival mode rather rather than seize the moment and try to throw a counter.
     
  8. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    The 12th gives me hope Wlad can get to him, but he needs to do that every round.
     
  9. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My, what a bouncy debate this is, no ? Lol
     
  10. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    all I know is this......Wlad has to change his gameplan from the 1st fight. Surely he's smart enough to know that's obvious! If he fights more aggressive even in a do or die for the last few rounds if its not going his way he has a big chance to turn this around. If he comes in hoping somehow that he was just unlucky in the first fight and fights the same way he'll lose and we will all be calling for him to retire. Somehow I think he turns it around and stops Fury by being more assertive and less scared. He knows what he has to do...don't wait till Fury has built up a large points lead and try for the last 3 minutes of the fight. Let those hands go and get the KO. Fury might just be a flash in the pan or he might just prove us all wrong again! One things for sure in my mind this 2nd fight will be a lot less dull. Because Wlad now has a real sense of urgency in his work or he knows its the end!! KO Wlad...or Wlad loses on points and retires. I'll give Wlad the nod here for now...but I won't bet my house on it!
     
  11. madballster

    madballster VIP Member Full Member

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    Fury was gassing out in the 12th. So your hope is based on Fury gassing out. IMO that's a big "if" for Wlad that he can't really bet on.
     
  12. teemy

    teemy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Kilt has a good chance but to realize it he is going to have to have to stop fighting scared. I think even getting a little wild would only benefit him. He needs to throw his hands. He needs angles and he needs to get a little nuts in there. If he's going to fight like a scared tired anemic wimp he is going to lose again. He needs to get in there, ignore all the Fury BS, forget about shame and embarassment, and take his head off. Even if he gets caught or still loses, at least he gave it a real go. Do it for boxing. Do it for Emanuel.
     
  13. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Why can't wladimir try to do some golovkin stuff? He already has similar athletic abilities. Same piston jab, great timing, great cross. Great straight line footspeed. In my view,Golovkin is an upgraded version of wladimir klitschkos fundamentals. Agreed?
     
  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You're saying Wlads workrate is as high as it ever was, that his timing is what it was in past? No, that's ridiculous.


    The solution is to throw a punch and be less gun shy. There's a big difference straying away from throwing punches at all and punching yourself out.

    You're an absolute moron, don't put words in my mouth you assclown.
     
  15. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    I was called deluded and absurd etc etc for suggesting Fury would win the first fight.
    "..won by a couple of rounds"????? Yipes son.
    Wlad isn't that great a boxer...sorry like. I find, and have always found him very basic, robotic and 1-dimensional. I give him mad props for making the very most of his limited talents, he is a formidable opponent but he is clearly a different fighter to Fury and essentially incapable of emulating most of the finer points of Fury's game.

    Fury can lose this fight for sure but it will be his own doing, not because Wlad was too much technically.