Hear me out for a minute: Floyd would beat Sugar Ray Robinson

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by G_RapPBF, Dec 10, 2007.


  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Makes me ashamed to be a Floyd fan. SRR wins hes all wrong for Floyd
     
  2. ron u.k.

    ron u.k. Boxing Addict banned

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    now at the end of this thread you will say "i was only joking,and trying to wind you fellas up"
     
  3. BoxingGuru

    BoxingGuru Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah right. Obviously these modern fans posting that Floyd can beat all these greats don't know anything about boxing history and haven't seen Sugar Ray fight.
     
  4. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gonna be a tough job if they had him cremated though.
     
  5. MGUNZ48

    MGUNZ48 MGunz Full Member

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    The only real quesion is if PBF could go the distance, I can't see anyway he could beat SRR at 47.
     
  6. MGUNZ48

    MGUNZ48 MGunz Full Member

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    I wish people would get a grip on this modern athlete bull ****. Especially with any weight class under Hvy. The human body has not fundementaily changed in over 100,000 years. Last time I checked they had 2 arms, 2 legs and 147 lbs was still 147 lbs? Running is still running, a punch is still a punch. I don't by off on people's diets being better either. Not if you look at the crap people eat nowadays. Remember the HBO special that showed PBF sitting at his house, eating a big pile of candy before his fight with Hatton? Riods are the only true advance that you can really put your finger on. I contend that the older guys probably had a better diet overall, and were tougher mentally. I do believe that training techniques are better, but in a sport that pits men of the same weight vs each other its a small advantage. You have to look at each man.
     
  7. DON1

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    Mayweather is top draw but lets get real. We are taking about Sugar Ray Robinson here, this guy was something else. What fighter has Mayweather fought that is anywhere near Sugar Ray Robinson's level?? I'm sfraid there isn't one.
     
  8. Dennis

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    Good post, I agree.

    ontopic: Floyd doesn't seem like the kind of fighter (stylewise) that could beat SRR. Now I'm not really well educated on boxing's historical fighters, but if I take a look at Ray's resume it looks like he had trouble with tough pressure fighters, which is exactly the opposite of Floyd's style (defensive counter-punching). The way I see it Robinson would feel comfortable by not being pressured throughout a fight. Which leads me to think he would set the pace and put enough effective pressure on Floyd to win the fight.

    Remember: styles make fights, it has nothing to do with old or new school boxing and/or nutrition.
     
  9. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bill Gates can make another one.

    After all, he's still makin dem ****in computahs.
     
  10. Haye

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    Unlike other sports, boxing is timeless. That is why fighters from the 1940's are picked to beat fighters from the 1990's. It is the same game now as it was 50 years ago.

    Skills are timeless, new techniques come along, like shoulder rolls, and are perfected by certain fighters such as James Toney. But the fundamentals are timeless, as are speed and power.

    This thread just demonstrates the ignorance of the poster. There is no objective analysis as to why Floyd beats Robinson. Only that ''Basketball is better now so Floyd must be better than Robinson'' logic.

    GRapPBF - You know **** all. Try watching some SRR fights and then come up with why Floyd is so much more advanced and better.
     
  11. BritInvasion

    BritInvasion keepin on keepin on Full Member

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    Who's this Ray Robinson guy? He ain't no ratings. Floyd'll moider da bum.
     
  12. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As for your theory of boxers become faster, and stronger over time.....In the bible it says "man will grow weaker and wiser." Look around you, this is definitely true.
    They used to box bare knuckled at one time, or used much smaller gloves. They might go 15 rounds like that. Think people could do that today??? We've made plenty of advancements on the way we train such as weight training. I'm pretty much a muscle head so I know this, BUT back then people farmed/ hunted there own food, they worked all day, etc. They didn't need to lift weights.
    Just because we give more tecnically advanced, and design better training equipment doesn't mean were better, or tougher than a past generation. If anything...Were definitely a lot weaker.
     
  13. Privatejoker

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    :fire Who is this G_RapPBF? I am sick to death of these guys who keep saying "athletes are bigger, stronger today so they would win". In some cases maybe, but not when it comes to Robinson v Mayweather. Is Floyd bigger and stronger than Robinson? Does he hit harder than Robinson? Because Floyd has a better defence doesn't mean he is going to win, Floyd has never faced anyone like Robinson, is Corrales Robinson? What about Hatton? DLH? Robinson would beat every fighter Mayweather has beaten and do it quicker. Floyd ran from Baldo (who does have a decent chin, but it would be cracked by Robinson). Robinson KO's DLH. G_RapPBF keeps talking about Floyd's countering and all that and yes Floyd is a great fighter, BUT NOT AT 147. Who has Floyd beat at 147? Basilo is better than Hatton and the 34 year old version Oscar (who wasn't at 147). Basilo would never gas out he was has a granite chin and keep throwing, he would beat castillo. Kid Gavillan is better than DLH, Judah and Baldo, even G_RapPBF must admit this. You talk about "Athletes now", while guys from the 80's would smoke PBF:rasta HEARNS, don't try and tell me that PBF beats the REAL HITMAN, who has too much advantages to lose to Pink Floyd, Sugar Ray Leonard would beat him, and in my opinion so would Duran. But i wouldn't pick any of those guys to beat Robinson. Robinson KO'd Middleweights OUT COLD:nut while floyd runs. Could a shot Gatti go 6 rounds with Robinson? Could Judah go 12 with Robinson? Could Hatton go 10 with Robinson? I don't care about Floyd's defence being better or how quick he is, he does not excite the fans like a true ATG like Ray did. Ray was past it in the fights G_RapPBF mentions against a bigger man in Lamotta and still took him to school. A 36-37 Robinson KO'd the granite chinned Fullmer with one shot:admin that's the stuff legends are made. Imagine if Ray was around now? He would probably be a true linear 6 weight World champ, while Floyd was not linear at 140 or 154. :bart Imagine Robinson at 154:yikes That Robinson vid from Youtube with Layla track shows the destructive power Ray had, he could end the fight in a flash with those left hooks, G_Rap wants to say that those guys were bums or something, while Floyd fought a shot Mitchell (what did he do at 147?), Brussles (where did he go?), Baldo (strong dude, and Ring Champ but come on he wasn't unbeatable and already lost 9 times and was always limited), Judah (he lost to the man just mentioned and Floyd still fought him). Robinson showed neck breaking power, Floyd never displayed that power, even against Hatton, Floyd hit him with Left hooks all night and Ricky kept coming until one hook with a help of the ring pole floored Hatton. Ray knocked guys OUT COLD with single left hooks, guys who never could get up again. A lot of the guys who went the distance with a peak Robinson (i mean the 129-1 version) had chins even if they weren't good or well known, because of that it doesn't mean they had glass jaws. If Floyd fought guys in the 50's the way he fought Castillo or Baldo, he would be booed out the ring.
     
  14. teeto

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    No , ive done this a million times, analysed it, done and done, never beating Robinson, never happenin
     
  15. ganchozurdo

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    G-rap will never be taken seriously after posting all that nonsense