Did Roc Nation Make A Mistake?

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hahaha
     
  2. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Stay on topic you dumbfock, this thread is not about Mayweather.
     
  3. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    They signed too many divas. Cotto, Ward, Rigo ...that's the new Destiny's Child right there.
     
  4. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol you guys are idiots.

    you think they are losing money on fighters who aren't fighting?? No promoter pays fighters for sitting at home.

    They'll pay once they step in the ring and fight. If Ward never fights they won't lose a dime - but meantime they have the name "Roc Nation" tied to a former top 5 P4P fighter....

    They just co-promoted the 2nd largest PPV of the year.
     
  5. The Akbar One

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    Rigo, active, and in shape, paired with being matched properly won't be a problem.
     
  6. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    See Ward really believes he should be getting paid $15-$20 million dollar purses. He barked up a tree for 2 straight years in bull**** waste of time litigation with a cancer patient whom all of a sudden after being with him for almost 10 years he wakes up one day and claims he being ripped of and exploited by his promoter the late Grand Wizard and exploiter of black males the Devil himself Mr. Dan Goosenn. Where is this missing revenue that Ward claimed Goosenn didn't disclose thus not making Ward look like the cash cow that he feels he is? Follow the money right? Where did it go?
     
  7. MysticalNinja

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    Did they make a mistake? Well it's too early to tell. Ward's "injury" has certainly set them back but he can still do good for them if from now on everything goes smoothly up to the Kovalev fight.

    Cotto can also help if he's matched right from now on.

    Rigo needs fighters who will go after him. Forget fighting the best, at least create an illusion that Rigo can be exciting first.

    Roc Nation need to exercise great patience and learn from mistakes. Otherwise it will all just be a wasted vanity project.
     
  8. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto's deal with Roc Nation was $50 million for 3 fights. He gets $15 million per fight and they gave a him a $5 million signing bonus. Cotto got $5 million on the spot!! Damn that's sweet. Ward's contract is similar but less money total. I bet Ward got a $1 million bonus.
     
  9. Doc Everlast

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    Jay Z has a lot of money to put into it. Even if they were to end up losing money well that's just a risk that comes with the territory and they are willing to accept loses especially within the first 6-12+ months. Jay Z and Beyoncé are the richest black couple in the United States. If it doesn't work they are not the first and wont be the last to not make it in the boxing game.
     
  10. Boxing Prospect

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    The problem is that Golovkin is being active, Ward isn't. Golovkin is bowling people over and getting some momentum going, Ward isn't.

    Ward would have taken criticism for fighting B class guys but he gets a lot more for not fighting
     
  11. rathalos

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    :lol::lol::patsch:patsch:good:good
     
  12. Doc Everlast

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    Maybe it was a clerical mistake. They added an extra 0 that didn't belong there.
     
  13. Rock0052

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    You'd think it'd be obvious by now that the more influence James Prince has on a fighter's career, the worse it gets. He sold Dawson down the river to build up Ward, and when that didn't lead to immediately to PPV and easy 8 figure paydays, he turned Ward against DG.

    Ironically, Ward was only a big fight or two from reaching that kind of success. He hit the reset button at a terrible time when he was on the brink of s****om: Bute and Stevenson (or Stevenson and Froch II) would've gotten him the success he thinks he's due now.

    People may want to ask themselves why Haymon was more willing to keep Broner and Wilder than to pursue Ward. A big part of the answer is James Prince. Just look what he's done to Andrade's career. You see the same delusional signs and unusual matchmaking shenanigans holding up Boo Boo's career. I don't think it's just a coincidence. Nor is it coincidental that the only decent fight Andre had since the Super 6 was a guy Prince had his hooks into.
     
  14. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    :lol: :rofl :patsch
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would be pleasantly surprised if everything went smoothly in the build up to the Kovalev fight. They will continue to struggle to find decent opponents for what they are willing to pay and Ward is injury prone, this is his 3rd injury since winning the Super 6. I expect it to be a rocky road to Kovalev/Ward.