Ridiculous official scorecards last night

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Leoh, Jan 17, 2016.


  1. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    78-74, 78-74, 77-75 all for Wilder

    So 2 judges had it 6-2 for Wilder at the end of 8th. I mean it was the other way around really. 5-3 for Szpilka at worst, nothing less. That's what pretty much everyone had it in the RBR thread. If the fight went the distance they'd just rob Szpilka like that?

    The bad thing is Wilder proved he didn't need the judges. He knocked Szpilka clean out. But a robbery was in the making. I just hate boxing when ***t like this happens.

    What were your scorecards?
     
  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    5-3 for Szpilka

    He was doing fine and had great gameplan till he got caught.
     
  3. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Any score that had Wilder ahead has to be bent. That scoring tells you nobody can expect a points win vs Wilder in the US.
     
  4. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I was a bit drunk but I think i had it 5-3 in Wilders favour when it ended. Im not saying they were 5 one sided dominating rounds Wilder won but he just seemed to be getting more score worthy shots in.

    Also looked to me that of the 2 it was the Pole that felt the need to change pace and try get closer while Wilder was comfortable with his plan A. It was that trying the closer range that led to the KO.

    Will watch it again sober but this time i dont expect to change my mind. But dont get me wrong. A world champion should not be having to make hard work of people like Szpilka or his last 2 opponents either.
     
  5. On_The_Ropes

    On_The_Ropes Active Member Full Member

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    Yep the only way your going to beat Wilder in America is if you knock him out as clearly you can't rely on the judges to score the fight fairly. Tbf he's not the first Champ to get protection from his home judges & won't be the last either.
     
  6. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Giving the edge to the champ in a very close fight is plausible. But these are outright robbery scores.
     
  7. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    These US judges want more fights in the US, more fees, hotels and ringside pampering, no chance they're going to vote that away.
     
  8. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Fury will fight him in the UK so we won't have any of these Americanised shenanigans going on with the cards.
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let's examine the first round.

    You could rationally give it to either guy. A more reasonable score would be an even round as absolutely nothing noteworthy happened.

    So any score from 10-9 either way to 10-10 is not just plausible, but pretty much in arguable. You cannot hang your hat on saying either guy clearly won it.

    I'd say there are three or maybe four rounds in this fight that were that close.

    So how is it a robbery if someone gives all three or four of those to one guy? Especially if it's only a robbery if you give them to Wilder, whereas if you give them to Szpilka you're somehow more rational ... when there's little difference either way?

    And people who think if you give one close round to Fighter A you're somehow obligated, no matter what you think and how you really score it, to give the next close round to Fighter B ... that's not how fights are scored.

    You can have a 120-108 fight that's very competitive if one guy wins all the competitive rounds. I've seen many fights that were very, very competitive where one guy probably won 10 rounds, but did just a little more or landed a couple more telling shots per round.
     
  10. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Terrible scorecards. Should have been 6-2 Szpilka or worst 5-3 for Szpilka at the time of the stoppage. They were planning to rob him anyway.
     
  11. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Because no one ever gets robbed in the UK, home of the premature stoppages
     
  12. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With your reasoning all 3 could have it 8-0 for Szpilka as well since no rounds were one sided. That's not how you score a fight. The very reason people gave Wilder 2-3 rounds is that he had the edge on those rounds, not because he destroyed Szpilka. Check the RBR thread and this poll, 80%+ of people had Szpilka ahead. I'll just go ahead and say whoever scored this in favor of Wilder is either heavily biased or has no idea whatsoever about how to score a fight.
     
  13. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can look at the RBR thread ... Or you can look at the front page. Thread after thread of Wilder hate. Not a day goes by, even when he hasn't fought for a few months, that there are no new Wilder hate threads. So it stands to reason those people would bend over backwards to score for the other guy. So I put no stock in that.
     
  14. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    its obvious ny is protecting their interest in wilder. and yep its complete bs:verysad
     
  15. Sabas

    Sabas New Member Full Member

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    I actually had it a draw at the time of the stoppage.