Martinez against the 90's middles.

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  1. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Martinez is a slight favourite over Watson but probably looses to the rest.
    Makes you realise how strong the 90's middles were as I rate Martinez fairly highly.
     
  2. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude he gets murdered by damn near all of them. And a vintage hopkins, holy **** bernard would have steamrolled him straight broadstreet bully style.

    We do not even have to put Roy on that list it. It is pretty much known what would have gone down.
     
  3. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My thoughts exactly.
     
  4. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lolz with his past fight history I am not going to fault you for that line of thought.
     
  5. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well all of Serg's middleweight competition thus far is inferior to everyone on that list...Pav is on par with some of them overall because he is steady with an alright beard, whereas some of those guys at an up and down career, a lot of the time because of durability issues..but the ones he is about as good as would give Martinez a better fight than he did for different reasons, they would have to be on one of their good nights though.

    He is a very tough style to deal with but the dominance he displayed against the fairly basic Williams and Pavlik, and the physically and mentally disappointing Dzin wont automatically equate to him being able to beat that crop...they were a fine bunch of fighters with a range of styles.

    I wouldnt give him a chance against Roy or Nard..and I reckon Toney would have to drop the ball to lose, which he has shown he is certainly capable of doing.

    He is a bad fight for McCallum stylistically...but Mike proved he was a level above what Martinez has shown me thus far. You better believe if Martinez let him into the fight like he against pretty much all his 3 middle opponents (less so Dzin and of course Williams in the rematch) McCallum would not let him off the hook..I just see Mike getting the better of it down the stretch everytime.

    I pick Kalambay to outpoint him.

    Middleweight Benn is pick em...Nigel was less polished there and showed stamina issues..But Martinez might well crumble under the unconventional pressure of Benn.

    I was never totally sold on Nunn...but he was a **** to deal with when he was up for it. Martinez aint seen no one close to Nunn before..Sure Williams was tall, black and a lefty but thats where the similarities end. Reckon Nunn picks up the points verdict but if he coasts to much Sergio will run him very close.

    Graham fight is an interesting one because of the similar approaches...I'm going to side with Bomber at this stage though. A little more awkward and versatile.

    He could take Watson..barely though. Michael was an excellent boxer, pretty underrated.

    Martinez could finish what Bomber started against Jackson if you ask me...probably would take him a while longer because he fights more exclusively at range but I think he might have the tools to do it.
    Problem is Julian doesnt need much of an opening...and as quick and slick as Martinez is, the openings are there enough for a guy like the Hawk..who was a pretty solid textbook boxer, not just some uncouth brawler.
     
  6. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent point.
     
  7. somebody

    somebody Active Member Full Member

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    Sorry too much nostalia here to come in with an unbiased head:D and especially with Nigel Benn, I'm going to be massively biased and say Nigel cleans Martinezs' clock and knocks him out brutally
    :bbb
     
  8. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure if Martinez beats any of them. Maybe McClellan if he is able to withstand the early storm. Maybe Jackson, depending on which version he faces. I definitely wouldn't take Martinez over Jackson at 154, but Jackson at 160 had serious eye issues and was declining, perhaps Martinez could win against that version. I wouldn't have much confidence in it given Jackson's freakish power and Sergio's defensive liabilities.

    He could give McCallum issues with his movement. McCallum was somewhat flat-footed and his power took a drop from 154 to 160, but McCallum was so terrific technically, difficult to catch flush, good variety of punches...his overall superiority should be the difference.

    Kalambay was a very good fighter, it's too bad that he's often just remembered for the Nunn KO. Talk about an unexpected knockout. Kalambay's first fight with McCallum was maybe one of the all-time great defensive performances. Simply a brilliant boxing display.

    The late 80s/early 90s was an amazing era for talent at middleweight, but also a wasted era as well. All those quality fighters, and so little matchups between the top guys.
     
  9. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All the guys on the list beat Martinez .kalamby would stand him on his head.
     
  10. Sandokan32

    Sandokan32 Active Member Full Member

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    Even in his prime, Martinez is too small for all of these guys. All those guys are natural 160 -168, with the exception of McCallum and Jackson, who hits like a ****ing mule. Martinez started at welterweight and has never fought over 160.
    Sergio was damn good but I´m afraid he loses to all. He has a decent chance against Kalambay and Nunn.