Kell Brook gets a Rough Deal at Times

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  1. Ian_k

    Ian_k Active Member Full Member

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    Kell needs to travel to us or join Haymon
    He can't fight bums all his career and not get stick nor can he expect the big names to all come to uk
     
  2. Super Hans

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    Matthew Hatton and Lovemore N'dou are more qualified than you on who is the better fighter as they have both shared the ring with Brook and Canelo, I know Hatton has said Brook is the better fighter and it's obvious he handled N'dou with more ease than Canelo
     
  3. Super Hans

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    Thing is with Sky Box Office involvement outside of the likes of Mayweather/ Pacquiao/ Cotto/ Canelo, guys like Thurman, Garcia, Porter, Bradley, etc would make more money by fighting in the UK. Brook isn't going to sell PPV at 4 in the morning (as a lot of the Box Office biz is made from the pub trade) and that fight won't be on PPV over there.
     
  4. DeathEater

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    Brooks been world champion almost 2 years now.

    Blaming Khan for his record is ridiculous
     
  5. Bent-nose

    Bent-nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Almost 18 months to be accurate:deal
     
  6. madpuppy

    madpuppy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought from looking at your posts in the General Forum that you are just a troll, but seems like that you are actually deluded :nut
     
  7. HARDCORE HEALEY

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    Canelo was about 20 when he thought Hatton and Ndou, he was still a kid!
     
  8. PaddyGarcia

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    I've seen Caneo in with - and beat - much better fighters than who Brook has beaten, so I'll base my thinking on that thank you.
     
  9. Gneus7

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    I agree that Kell gets a rough deal. when GGG fights his mandatory challengers and faced weak opposition , it's because everyone is ducking him. When Brook does it, it's all Brooks fault. We don't really know who's fault it is, it takes two to tango. I don't think the top welterweights are exactly lining up to fight Brook even though he has a title. They know he's a dangerous opponent so they might be asking for more than Brook/Hearn are capable of giving them.

    Brook does need to forget about Khan though as that fight may never happen. Brook may need to make some big sacrifices in order to get big fights and more exposure or he may need to change promoters/managers (not always easy though).
     
  10. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Not entirely sure his situation is comparable to the one with Golovkin.
     
  11. Brixton Bomber

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    Wrong. So wrong.

    NOBODY CARES about Brook.

    EVERYBODY is ducking GGG.

    Massive difference.
     
  12. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why not?

    My point is people blame Brook for not fighting better opposition whereas people don't blame GGG. GGG is more of a star and can probably offer opponents more money too. How do we know Brook isn't also being avoided? How do we know opponents aren't pricing themselves out of fights/choosing to fight lower risk/higher reward alternatives?

    Brook isn't well known in the USA so maybe Thurman chooses to fight Porter instead as he is more well known over there, generates more money and is potentially an easier fight? Risk vs reward

    Maybe risk vs reward is why Rios fought Bradley instead of Brook?

    Maybe that's why Pacquiao and Bradley are fighting now?

    Maybe that's why Khan hasn't fought him?

    Floyd fighting Berto, Garcia fighting other guys etc, Broner fighting other guys etc. Maybe there are better risk vs reward alternatives for the other welterweights rather than fighting Brook?
     
  13. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody cares about Brook is why people would rather not fight him (therefore ducking him).

    It's not really that different. Being avoided is being avoided. GGG can't force people into the ring with him and neither can Kell. It's even harder for Kell as he isn't a big name and doesn't generate big money so it's even harder for him to get guys to fight him.

    Why would you fight Brook when you can fight somebody like Danny Garcia for example, a potentially easier opponent for more money and still get a belt?
     
  14. Brixton Bomber

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    No no no.

    Nobody cares about him because he is irrelevant.

    He's beat Porter - wow. Who has Porter beat that's a huge name at WW?

    GGG can't get people into the ring with him because people are scared of him.

    Cotto? Would end interviews when pressed about him.
    Quillin? Wanted millions to fight him.
    Canelo? Wants the fight at LMW.
    Lee? He had bottle, but went the domestic route.
    Saunders? Openly admitted he has no chance.

    NOBODY even mentions Kell. They don't care about him.

    people are OPENLY going out of their way to avoid GGG.
     
  15. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You seem to be (intentionally?) missing my point. My point is how do we know Kell is any more to blame for not being able to get top opponents to fight him?

    You keep saying nobody cares about Kell but that just proves my point. If nobody cares about him, how is he supposed to get people to fight him rather than fight bigger named fighters who are able to offer more money annd exposure and might be easier to beat?