Frampton "complacency" in last fight

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by sharpy, Feb 18, 2016.


  1. sharpy

    sharpy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When Carl says he was knocked down twice due to complacency can anyone explain what he means. If he means he hadn't trained properly for the fight then that surely wouldn't have worsened his chin he should still be able to take a shot, especially a jab. If however he is refering to the fact he wasn't "switched on" mentally, why on earth did he get put down twice? Would the first knockdown not have been enough to make him pay attention?
     
  2. jamescomeback

    jamescomeback Active Member Full Member

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    Straight after he was giving out about the weight he could be finding it tough
     
  3. blue hurricane

    blue hurricane Member Full Member

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    Think it is true. It was his american debut he thought he was just going to show up and blast the mexican lad away but mexicans will always turn up for a s**** no matter how limited they are talent wise. Frampton and his team are trying to use his poor performance as a reason why quigg wants to fight him. The truth is this is the biggest fight for both of them and win or lose there will always be a rematch. Personally i think quigg wins..bigger puncher and will box to a plan.frampton will lose his head and get knocked out. Can't wait not long to go now
     
  4. We're meant to believe the following:

    1) he was tight at the weight.

    The truth is he admitted afterwards he is a career SBW and weight wasn't an issue

    2) he couldn't get up for the fight

    The truth is it was his US TV debut. Do you honestly believe he wasn't there to impress and therefore he obviously took it seriously.

    3) the canvass was soft

    The truth? Load of complete rubbish.
     
  5. likemike31

    likemike31 Active Member Full Member

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    People keep doubting me on this but that mexican was really handy. he could really box.

    I think carl wasn't switched on like he should have been, because he read the guys record like most people here did and made assumptions.

    It was a world title shot for the mexican aswell, so he raised his game for it.
     
  6. beachie17

    beachie17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People are doubting that due to the fact that this Mexican has lost since to a fighter with a poor record
     
  7. likemike31

    likemike31 Active Member Full Member

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    but those people will have only looked on boxingrec and drawn a conclusion when who truly knows the circumstances.

    The one time, we did see him he was very classy - had a world champion down twice on the canvas.
     
  8. sharpy

    sharpy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can understand if he got in there thinking it was going to be an easy nights work but that doesn't explain why he got knocked down twice. Once I could understand but then you would give your head a wobble and crack on. Twice seems particularly odd to me
     
  9. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    That's only because you don't understand boxing. Any boxer underprepared and not warmed up can easily get clipped, knowledgeable fans know this.
     
  10. Camaris

    Camaris Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think what he means is he wasn't switched on properly and so got caught cold at the start of the fight. As anyone knows who has ever had to perform at anything at all (at any kind of real level), that can quite easily happen.

    This isn't about his chin being 'better' or 'worse' than normal. If any professional boxer stands there and gets walloped on the chin and is not switched on and ready - able to make those minute adjustments that take the sting out of a shot or, more usual, avoid it in the first place, then the result is not going to be super.
     
  11. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    The canvas reason is the one that resonates best with me i actually made a thread after the fight on how i noticed straight away in the early rds carls stance had widened. I offered up possible reasons why maybe that was and at that point i hadnt heard him mention the canvas issue.
     
  12. Old Greg

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    Gonzalez lost his next fight as he damaged his hand early on. Had his opponent down and hurt before this. This is well documented.

    In Texas, Frampton had a bad start, fighters get caught cold all the time, he wasn't in any trouble and he took bigger shots as the fight went on. I wouldn't read too much into that first round.

    He does take a lot of punches though, if there's a weakness to his game and think it's his defense in general not his chin, which I think is pretty solid.


    I'll admit he certainly underestimated his opponent that night which was foolish and the excuses were a bit embarrassing.

    Definitely a good kick in the a*se for him which will work in his favour.

    He'll be ready next week.
     
  13. Anyone who thinks he is was complacent when he was making his US TV debut is deluded.
     
  14. ConcretePete

    ConcretePete Active Member Full Member

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    I think no matter who you are, you aren't going to be training with same intensity for an unknown Mexican you're expected to blast out in few rounds than you are for a unification fight.

    Just don't see Quigg beating him.
     
  15. Even when the prize is huge fights for massive money on US tv if you impressive?

    What a load of rubbish.