Stop Acting like Boxing is not a Niche Sport. UFC averages 2.43 million on a Saturday

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Willie Maeket, Feb 18, 2016.


  1. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    So Boxing is better because there are more EE's competing?

    Roy Jones, James Toney, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis would have been competitive in EVERY era.

    Jesus, Guys like Mike, Roy and Lennox RAN THINGS as amateurs.

    No, Manny/Floyd is the biggest flop of all time. Abysmal fight.

    That fight has caused Boxing to go backwards. Look at Floyd's numbers in his fight after the big one. Look at Manny's. Nobody cares about them now.
     
  2. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    I like watching exciting fighters no matter where they come from. Big fan of Sergey Devevyanchenko the middleweight from Ukraine who now resides in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn.

    I like the way he goes about his business. Quiet, humble but supremely confident. I know many of the millennials love a brash outspoken guy like Connor McGregor in mma. I don't blame him one bit for being such a colorful personality. He made millions doing this, and, of course, backing up the boasts.

    I just think the american press is biased against fighters from europe. Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos never got the kudos they deserved. Now Sergey Kovelev, who has a great personality and is a complete fighter doesn't get his proper respect. He's the best fighter in the sport right now. A sensational boxer with a great jab and huge, concussive power. With innate charm and sense of humor.

    Derevyanchenko is a senastional prospect. A pressure fighter with conditioning and big punching power. Canelo is built up as a star but whould be summarily dispatched right now by the Ukainian-american star Devevyanchenko. He will be the biggest threat to GGG in a year or so mark my words.
     
  3. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Conor McGregor's biggest threat is not the guy he's facing next: Brazilian Rafael Dos Anjos. No, the conqueror of Dos Anjos, Kabib "The Eagle" Nurmadomedov from Makhachkala is back now after a year of battling various injuries. If this savage is anywhere close to his former self then Connor McGregor and anyone else at or near that weight class is toast. His wrestling is the real deal. His chin is battle tested. Conditioning top-notch. If he avoids Connor's lethal fists and takes the Irishman down its over for McGregor. That is if they even end up fighting of course.
     
  4. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    The Eagle takes on the tough Tony Ferguson after not fighting since April of 2014. This fight will take place on April 16th on Fox from Tampa, Florida.
     
  5. BEATDOWNZ

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    And his stand-up is dreadful.

    He's got as much chance getting stopped as he has stopping Conor.

    You need all of what you mentioned AND top class stand-up to beat Conor.
     
  6. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    That is why I hope Connor annexes another title and perhaps this fight can take place. The more likely scenario though from the scuttlebutt around the internet is that McGregor might just go up again and challenge "Ruthless" Robby Lawler for yet another title and record-breaking accomplishment. That would be at UFC 200 rumor has it.

    Anything is possible with Connor because the man believes in himself so steadfastly. Like other successful people he envisions himself accomplishing the goal first. By doing so in his mind the feat has already taken place. Aldo was already beaten before they fought.

    BTW, it will be interesting to see how the usually stoic Lawler handles Connor's pre fight taunts. The hotheaded Brazilians he's been fighting go bananas which plays right in McGregor's Machivellian hands.
     
  7. Slavic Fighter

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    This is MMA though, (takedown oriented) grappling > striking (with weak takedown defense), especially since Conor is coming up and we have no idea how his power will translate to that weight class. Also, Khabib uses some wild unorthodox kicks to close the range and set up his grappling. His chin is solid enough to eat some punches before he inevitably takes Conor down. That's if he's even remotely close to his former self of course.

    Khabib also has extremely diverse grappling, he's well versed in Judo, Sambo and wrestling and will keep Conor down while doing enough to prevent ref stand up. He's a different beast from those generic wrestling+BJJ ground fighters. Conor had no answer for Mendes on the ground who's much smaller than Khabib.

    The only way Conor beats Khabib is if he fights on his backfoot and keep the distance using lateral movement like Holly against Ronda. If he pressures Khabib he'll be taken down from the clinch very soon.
     
  8. K-Stackz

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    you do realize that GSP was the MMA equivalent to Mayweather Correct? exciting when he was young but then won the WW belt became boring but also became a HUGE PPV STAR. He may have wrestle ****ed his opponents but he was a huge draw. There has been a hole in Canadian since he has retired. Him retiring has actually hurt UFC not helped it.
     
  9. K-Stackz

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    UFC 142 did 23 million viewers in Brazil which didn't even do 300k ppv buys in the USA

    UFC did 56,000 people in Australia
    UFC did 55,000 people in Toronto
    and did of 1 million buys on both those PPV even the events outside the USA are historically noted to not do great on PPV

    The irish have been begging to have it in Croke park but they can't find proper time to do it because the stadium has a curfew.

    consistently sell out in the UK, Japan, and Canada. Had one or multiple events in, Abu Dahbi, Mexico, China, Sweden, New Zealand, Australia, Germany, Singapore, South Korea, Philippines, and Poland. all but China and Singapore and attendance of 10,000+.
     
  10. K-Stackz

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    you have no idea what you are talking about. if Freestyle/Greco wrestling is vastly Superior to MMA wrestling why are NCAA and JUCO wrestlers VASTLY more successful then Olympic and Foreign wrestlers who don't have experience with Folk style???
    LMAO and boxing purest talking like they know ****.
     
  11. K-Stackz

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    Yoel Romero: a steroid abuser who has been knocked out by a LHW journeyman, Cheated to beat Tim kennedy after almost being ko'd and won a robbery against Jacare while roided up.

    Brock Lesnar was a 2 Time NCAA national wrestling champion while HW wrestling was at its peak in the USA and to top that off he fought in one of the weakest eras of the UFC heavyweight division

    DC, great fighter but not the real champion. He is the second best guy who has the belt because Jon Jones is a jackass.

    Weidman vs. rockhold. one had a staph infection and was on antibiotics while the other had a broken foot. Weidman is not and elite wrestler but he is an elite grappler. He was able to grapple to a decision (which he clearly lost) with Andre Galvao when he was just a purple belt.
     
  12. Slavic Fighter

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    Those random countries you listed had an UFC event, big deal. We have American football matches in Europe too which probably attract few thousand people because people like to see some novelty, you have 50.000+ people on ****ing ski jumping events. When there are organized sport events you'll always have people who will come and watch it. How many people buy/watch UFC PPVs from Europe? A small community of hardcore MMA fans and that's it.
     
  13. Slavic Fighter

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    What I meant is that MMA wrestling is a very limited form of wrestling because of striking and submissions being allowed which changes the whole game. Just like MMA boxing is an extremely limited form of boxing and so on. My reply was to the guy who said that MMA is superior to boxing because it involves knowledge of more combat sports/martial arts, but in reality you only need a limited knowledge of those combat sports.

    As for that NCAA and JUCO comment I couldn't care less about American wrestlers, they suck and were behind Russia, Iran, Japan and Azerbaijan in the last Olympics.
     
  14. Slavic Fighter

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    Tim Kennedy was the only one who cheated at that fight by grabbing Romero's glove which was the only way he could land anything. It was a clear beatdown by Romero and that stool incident was caused by officials.

    Romero's as much of a steroid abuser as any of the big stars in the UFC, a lot of UFC champs clearly took roids at some point, the most blatant examples in recent history being Jon Jones (who just happened to have testosterone level of an Asian girl yeah right - clear example of cycling), Weidman (who came in extremely deflated after stricter testing), Aldo (same as Weidman), Hendricks (same as Weidman and Aldo), Anderson Silva (proven cheater), Werdum (fought in Pride where they were officially encouraged to take roids, somehow can still fight when he's almost 40), Lawler (American Testosterone Team fighter, same camp as Romero and Lombard, had a late career resurgence and looks roided to the gills). Let's not even start with women divisions, if you don't believe that the likes of Ronda and Gadelha never took roids then you're naive beyond imagination.

    And yeah, as if Jacare and Kennedy never took anything, yeah right... They look totally "natural".

    Then there's other UFC legends in recent history like Couture, Belfort, Henderson, Overeem, Sonnen, Tim Sylvia, Barnett... Hell I could type all day.

    They're all a bunch of American bums who'd get beat by Olympic wrestlers from better wrestling countries like Russia or Iran if those olympians would have motivation for MMA (they don't want to get brain damage and get paid way less so obviously they have no motive) they would wreck everyone and percentage-wise there would be as many American champs as there are in boxing. If Bilyal Makhov truly joins the UFC after Olympics you'll see how right I am when he demolishes the HW division including Jon Jones (if he steps up) and makes it look easy.
     
  15. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    McGregor vs Aldo was sooooo good

    UFCs biggest draw is a woman.