Quigg needs to get rid of that long faced Donkey Joe Gallagher

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  1. von trapp

    von trapp Member Full Member

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    Just been tweeted by Eddie Quigg in hospital having broken jaw fixed. 4th round.
     
  2. El Terrible

    El Terrible Active Member Full Member

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    Anyone else not think Quigg looked spent and out of gas from mid 11 through 12.?
    All this talk of his unmatchable fitness is bollox. Did next to nothing for the first 6 as part of some pacing game plan, then looked spent by round 12.
    Im not having it that he could've started his engine earlier.
     
  3. rowedav

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    Just watching the post fight presser, I don't think Quigg is happy with Joe at all. Asked if he would fight more aggressively in a rematch Quigg said he would follow Joes tactics. The body language and the way it was said...I took that to mean he fought the way he did tonight purely on Joes tactics and therefore laying some of the blame on Joe for last night.
     
  4. Grooveongreg

    Grooveongreg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you watched the first few RDS quigg was too tense and stumpled forward while frampton effectively moved out of range. Also frampton being a counter puncher meant quidd was cautious about letting his hands go unbalanced. He was also phased by framptons faints

    As the fight wore on frampton slowed which gave him a chance to land some. Too little too late

    Fact is framptons feet and faints were enough to out smart quigg and bank enough rds for the win.

    Frampton is the superior boxer and I'm a Quigg fan and was rooting for him
     
  5. krb

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    Spot on. Frampton controlled the range much better but that should've been expected and planned for

    Agree with Quigg that he blocked and caught most of the punches but if you don't throw back you can't expect to win rounds
     
  6. kojak

    kojak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I did actually think that myself, mid round 11. Quigg did take some big bodyshots himself when they went toe to toe.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Quigg's corner let him down in this fight. To not communicate to your fighter that you are losing virtually every round up until the 7th or 8th is absolutely inexplicable. By that point you are now fighting an uphill battle and save for a miraculous knockout, you're probably going home in defeat. Quigg's face told the whole story once he was told he was 6-1 down. He couldn't believe it.

    What would have happened if Gallacher was more forthcoming with tactical advice 2-3 rounds earlier is up for debate, but Gallacher just wasn't doing his job for the first half of the fight. If your fighter is doing the wrong things and it's resulting in him continually losing rounds, you tell him. That's just basic common sense.
     
  8. BEATDOWNZ

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    That or he overtrained? :think
     
  9. BEATDOWNZ

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    Surely he should have known that he was 6-1 down though? :think
     
  10. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    This is true. It was similar to when beefy smith won wbo only beefys opp did fade carl was never going to do the same. Shocking tactics.
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Not necessarily. Frampton wasn't particularly dominant during the early-goings, he was just a lot more active than Quigg was. Gallacher has the benefit of being able to see everything. It's also his job to be providing his fighter with round by round tactical advice. To not tell Quigg he was losing handily up until the beginning of round 8 is just mind-boggling, don't you agree? Whether Quigg was deluding himself or not, it was Gallacher's job to communicate the facts. He didn't do that until it was arguably too late. Quigg reacted on being told he was losing. It's fair to say he would have reacted far earlier if he was told earlier that he was losing.

    You said it yourself - he did next to nothing for the opening six rounds. Are you having us believe that it was beyond Scott Quigg physically to throw more punches during those opening six rounds and then still be able to step it up as he did for the second half of the fight? We aren't asking Quigg to go in like a battering ram during the first few rounds, we just wanted him to throw some punches. That's well within an experienced fighter, a world titlist.
     
  12. jquest

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    I was a little confused at how Scott Quigg and his team thought it was going okay in the first half when he was hardly throwing any jabs much less landing.

    Frampton was racking up points throwing the jab and not landing more so than Quigg and just looked busier but not necessarily better.
     
  13. El Terrible

    El Terrible Active Member Full Member

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    If he loaded up earlier he would have been goosed by 9 onwards so yes to a certain extent that is what I'm having you believe. The weight cut obviously had an effect, couldn't even get his arms up that last 30 seconds of the 11th.
    All the pre talk was Quiggs power but i also think he was wary of Frampton early, really didn't want to drop the guard at all.
     
  14. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I don't know why a boxer who barely threw a punch for four rounds would think he might have shared them. And it's interesting, for a fighter who dines out on his fitness, this is the second big fight in which he has saved energy in the first six rounds to come on strong in the second half of the fight. He sneaked a draw against Salinas but he was never going to be able to give Frampton a five round start and get the points win.

    It's possible Quigg and Gallagher knew deep down a stoppage win was their only hope and he was saving energy for a big onslaught from round 8 onwards, but they'd never admit that, so we can only wonder.

    Bottom line is, Frampton is a far superior boxer and unless he gets careless in his preparation or during the fight itself, he's always going to get the better of Quigg. A rematch would go the same way as the first.
     
  15. Bent-nose

    Bent-nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gallagher didn't know he was losing until he checked a TV screen at the end of Round 7. :desk:desk