Quigg needs to get rid of that long faced Donkey Joe Gallagher

It was a World title unification......you can't leave the ring knowing you haven't put everything on the line so why on earth would you surrender your first 4 rounds by doing nothing!! It wasn't as if Carl was blowing himself out early either so why?????? You can't deny Joe is a quality trainer but he got this wrong big time. Lots of ifs and buts of course but if you're gonna lose then lose with all you've got from start to finish.

 

Fact is Frampton was the superior boxer, so much so' that Quigg did not even let the basic jab go for fear of being countered,
this was apparent from round 1. never mind 6 rounds later,
Quigg could not adjust to what was in front of him! he was totally out classed, instructions from corner must have been Zero' to me the 2 people in that situation, Joe and Quigg ' with 2 belts on line ect, should have gone out fighting' or Joe had his fighter go out fighting by round 2 or certainly by the 3rd, even if it was on his back' but out fighting end of.

 

Frampton actually said in his post fight with IFL he couldn't believe he was able to win the rounds without having to do that much. Says it all really.

 

There comes a point when the fighter has to take responsibility for how a fight it going, to blame Joe for Quigg doing **** all for 6 rounds is ridiculous. Quigg's in the ring, surely he knows he's not throwing any punches and therefore not winning any rounds. He threw his first jab in the 7th or 8th round ffs.

All this talk about the 'hard to score' opening rounds is complete *******s as well, if Quigg doesn't throw one punch and Frampton lands one jab - it's Frampton's round, simple.

 

Agreed, scott cant be that thick to realise if you dont throw punches you cant win rounds

 

:deal :thumbsup

 

Then the criticism of Gallacher is even more relevant. If your corner man is incapable of gauging who is winning and losing over the course of six fairly one-sided rounds, then that's not someone you really want working your corner.

Just to clarify, I don't think anyone is blaming Gallacher for Quigg losing. The fighter obviously has to take personal responsibility for not putting fourth more effort during the first six rounds, but Gallacher should also be held accountable for not doing his job - and that's to instruct his fighter and give the relevant advice.

 

I agree Joe should have said something earlier - the fact is if you listen to his post fight interviews he also thought the scores were level after the first 5 - baffling!

But the blame can't fully be placed on Joe, Quigg also needs to take responsibility, it's his ****ing arms not moving lol.

Truely elite fighters don't even need a cornerman's advice anyway, they adjust themselves according to how the fight is playing out. Mayweather is an example of this.

 

Couple more things that make this strategy even more baffling are the rumours around Frampton struggling to make weight and two of the judges being American, who I would say traditionally favour the more aggressive fighter. Everything seemed to scream Quigg should have starting applying pressure early.

 

Gallagher is the biggest reason within quiggs camp why he lost, not saying quigg could have won the fight easily with someone else but those ridiculous Gallagher tactics which nearly failed spectacularly against a scrub like salinas he thought would work against an elite fighter, next one to suffer from his ineptitude will be cardle, just gets worse and worse under him and he should move to ingles or even coldwell, even Jamie Moore could do better with some of these guys as Gallagher is a domestic level one trick pony

 

Exactly right, someone scoffed at me for suggesting Frampton could be made to look 'shop-worn' if Quigg stepped up the pace. That was the worst Frampton beating a super-timid Quigg.

Maybe shop-worn is harsh but I think Carl could do with stepping up in weight, maybe a catch clause now he has x2 belts, he looked fatigued.

 

If quigg had started being aggressive earlier Frampton would have just boxed rings round him much earlier

 

Frampton looked spent in rd 11 and knew it would take all his effort to win the 12th. 'Boxing rings' around a more aggressive Quigg would have tired Frampton out completely by the 10th round but instead Quigg took him on a summer holiday for 6 rounds.