All quigg needed to do was smash the body up. hes a good body puncher and the body dont move. his 5 attempts at headhunting were rubbish.
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Quigg, and maybe Gallagher thought they'd walk Frampton onto something, that was clearly the tactic, and it didn't work. Quigg wasn't afraid or lacking confidence, he simply gave away the first 5 or 6 rounds. Frampton won the early rounds by doing slightly more than Quigg, and it really was nothing but touching arms and gloves with the odd jab, and the big uppercut getting through. Quigg won his rounds clearly, and scrambled Framptons sense's in the 11th, and had the momentum spoiled by a joke of a ref. Rematch makes perfect sense for quigg, he knows he can take Framptons power, and knows he will win rounds when he takes it to Frampton, he also has the power to end the fight early. Frampton and his team obviously don't think the same, and consider the risk to outweigh the reward, although i don't see how a fight with Santa Cruz does big numbers, and they won't go near Rigo, even if they could secure a decent payday.
It was an awful fight no rematch please. I actually think you've now seen the best of the pair of them. I agree with you I thought they were both poor. Scott losing his unbeaten record will take its toll. He now knows he can lose and his fragile confidence will be rocked. He also froze in his biggest fight and found a way to lose a fight he should have won in my opinion. He had significant advantages in strength and fitness yet when push came to shove he didn't back himself. Plus, I always thought Frampton was disrespectful to talk about Scott's IQ but why did it take a scorecard from Sky to tell him he was behind?
Master sensei joe Gallagher thought Frampton would go in all crazy and punch himself out and then quigg could pick off a knackered Frampton from round 7, but once again he fails spectacularly as a cornerman in a big fight. As for Frampton not wanting a rematch, there's nothing in it for him, only quigg would want it as he's got no money fight, possibly McDonnell but that's nowhere near as big.
first thing quigg should do is try to reach world level, becos he hasn't done it yet. however Frampton needs to prove it more too to show hes not a 1 hit wonder.
Frampton Shingo Wake Leo Santa Cruz if he wins then Rigo if he loses then Winner of Gavin Mcdonnell v Hugo Ruiz I would try and get Quigg a Euro Title Fight upon his return then a final Eliminator for the wbc. there are a few poor fighters ranked in there top ten so it should be doable and will give him the winner of Ruiz v Mcdonnell which will be the weakest champion.
You'd have to think what Gallagher was watching if he thought Quigg was boxing well in the first 5 or 6 rounds and the fight was even. Quigg didn't win one of those rounds, Frampton pinched them by basically landing with the odd jab and initiating things. When Quigg put the pressure on in the 2nd half Frampton looked uncomfortable and in the 11th he looked clearly distressed, it was there for Quigg. Credit to Frampton though he came back and took the 12th. Has beeen mentioned it appears in the first half of the fight Quigg outsmarted himself.
Quigg or gallagher need to get in touch with billy graham asap. He ll show you how to apply educated pressure. Wouldnt be a bad idea joes got a decent sized stable for one man. Quigg also got the attributes to excel with grahams methods. One thing billy graham wouldnt be doing is sending quigg out there to win by non punching. Gallaghers taken him as far as he can imo. The same way billy had with ricky by the time he got to mayweather etc. No shame in that but if theres outside help available would be shameful to not seek it.
I'm pretty sure that billy graham said he would never train anyone else after he split with ricky because he felt so let down? if he was available that would be a great idea:good but would joe gallaghers ego let him bring somebody else in to help? nono
Probably right on both counts mate. Reckon its time for billy to get back involved at a serious level again tho. Enough times passed. Not only for himself but i bet theres a lot of fighters that would benefit from billys experience etc. Especially quigg. Even that john murray when he was fighting. They end up a bit too predictable with gallagher. I m amazed guys like hearn dont try and get someone like billy involved with his fighters. No good for some fighters but guys like quigg, john murray etc would excel. Your right tho i dont think gallagher would allow it. Stupid when he could probably get his fighters up to the next level.
So who exactly is at world level in your eyes then? Is it just Rigondeaux by any chance? Quigg is definately at world level. Quigg has just lost a close decision to Frampton - who was number 2 in the division. In my opinion and many others, Quigg definately lost that himself by starting too slow. Would he do the same in a rematch? I doubt it.