WBA Orders Framption Rigondeaux before July 27

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Big Bang, Mar 2, 2016.



  1. Big Bang

    Big Bang Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah I get what you're saying in general. But (for me) in comparison to the early years leading up to the 80's / 90's I feel the 'super fights' seem hard to come by these days.
     
  2. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So in your mind, Frampton's only options are avoid Rigo and retire rich or fight Rigo and become a pauper? Surely there is a middle ground?

    He can fight Rigo and even if he loses, he can still get big fights and make good money. Will it be as much money as he could have made if he remained undefeated? Probably not. But, he could still earn very good money if he keeps winning, post Rigo. His fan base will also help. They seem the loyal type, like Hatton's, so i imagine Carl will retire very comfortably, even if he has a handful of loses by the end.
     
  3. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah why would you not want to test your self with the world's best

    Jazza ****ens as more ***** and guts than frampton and quigg put together
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    And Rigo is 35 ,so the wheels have to fall off at some point.

    eg Wlad v Fury?
     
  5. Bent-nose

    Bent-nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would Frampton have to forfeit his previous earnings if he takes the Rigo fight?
     
  6. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    More to the point, Donaire made $1.5M from fighting Rigo. Frampton I think could probably get more than that. Not sure how expensive his bills are...
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The money he would get for fighting Rigo is not in proportion to the risk of losing the fight.

    We (the fancy) are indirectly to blame, in that there is so much value on an '0', that fighters that are undefeated need to try and squeeze every penny out of it, while they have it, and fighting Rigondeaux does not do that for Frampton.
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He is a popular fighter, there is money to be made with easier challenges. He has worked hard to get in this position, so it would seem like madness to 'give it away' so cheaply.
     
  9. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think we always look back at our era with pride and knock the current era. That said, I watched big fights in the 80s and early 90s and I think was very lucky, even if I am bias.
     
  10. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I see your point and agree to an extent. Canelo is still the biggest cash cow in boxing despite losing his 0 though. I don't see having a loss to Rigo as particularly damaging really. You'll earn fan respect for taking the fight and you'll still be at the world stage anyway. In fact, if he loses he could then just go up a weight and fight for a title there.
     
  11. blundell

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    That's a very good point. But Canelo is the biggest draw because of his gowling popularity in the US and mainly his hero like status in Mexico. He is clearly the biggest boxer in Mexico, so as a result the Mexican May Bank Holiday is where he makes his money, and even if he lost to Khan he will still keep rinsing this day. I don't think Frampton can really compare to this type of scenerio. If he loses his zero his marketability would take a hit. Of course he would be able to recover, but it would be nothing like the way Canelo did it so easily after the Mayweather loss. It would be a much longer road.
     
  12. kophead

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    Jazza is going to knock the **** out of Rigondeaux he has god on his side.
     
  13. TBooze

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    Always want to see the Brits win, but in this instance I suspect god ain't going to cut it. And being Cuban I would not be shocked of Rigo is strongly Catholic...
     
  14. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Of course, but I think Rigo is seen as being as unbeatable as Mayweather was which is why I don't think the 0 marketability will really matter as much in this instance. I can't see any promoter saying they wouldn't put on a fight with Frampton because he lost to Rigo, especially seeing as no one else seems to be willing to let their fighters near him.

    Let's remember Rigo is 35 now too and looked awful in his last fight. If he gets old overnight and Frampton managers to get a win...that's huge. He's straight into the P4P rankings then.
     
  15. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At the end of the day i think most boxers are in it for the dollar, and theres nothing wrong with that.

    Some are prepared to fight the best, and some are happy to fight less than stellar competition, as long as it puts bums on seats and pays the bills.

    I don't blame Frampton for avoiding Rigo, although i think the decision is more to do with the Wee fella than him, and at the end of the day Rigo isn't a ticket seller.

    What i do find funny, is the irony of them avoiding the fight, after having spent the last 18 months slating Quigg for doing the same.

    Quigg wasn't allowed to risk losing a big payday by potentially losing to Rigo ahead of a showdown with Frampton, but they can, as they are lining up Santa Cruz, a man they said had an undeserved reputation at SBW.