GGG falls within Floyd Mayweather predatory range

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hearns is a KO risk vs any fighter, a favorite to outbox Floyd due to his boxing skills & 78" reach, but the ATG Welter list are all favorites to beat Hearns in 15 rounds (except Felix Trinidad who was from the 12 rd era & Felix Two fisted power & precise punch placement) will stop Hearns after Tito visits the canvas himself, Tito comes back with trademark Sub-beltline thunderous left hooks that interrupts Hearns rythum. Hearns mind starts focusing on his jewels, Felix Tito Sr slaps his son & instructs him to keep his power punches low to take away Hearns legs & well to fight, Hearns is now tender & a second left hook counter to a Hearn right hand, put Tommy down again...Ref takes a point from Tito, Tito pretends he doesn't understand & goes back to Tommy beltline, Hearns limbs awkwardly to his corner. Tito Sr tells his son to adjust his punching to the actual Beltline to keep Hearns nervous & give him false hope that he will get DQ win out of the situation. Tito mental strength starts imposing itself on Hearns on the later Rds, first big right snaps Tommy Hearns head, scorecards show Hearns 6 points ahead & Roy Jones Jr on the commentary start talking about how Hearns chin let him down in the big fights, while Roy Jones Jr is explaining on what Hearns should do to avoid being KTFO, Tito lands a vicious left hook...a down syndrome like facial expression masks Tito face and he goes for the Kill, Hearns falls like a tree, ref doesn't even bother counting & that's why Hearns got KTFO by Tito while being ahead on all score cards :verysad

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    Floyd has nothing for GGG who could eat his punches if he had to. There's a reason why weightclasses exist. Hard to move around against someone much bigger who has no respect for your punches and knows how to cut the ring. Also, GGG is in his prime, Floyd is way past it. Floyd ducked prime Pacman what makes you think he'll accept this fight now?
     
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    Hearns would put on a clinic against Tito dude.
     
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    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that asking Floyd to face Golovkin at his age and at 160 is just too much. Yes he will have longer reach and he will be faster. His reach and speed has been key factors in his career together with his extraordinary dedication. Golovkin is a lot bigger a very good boxer with a very good jab. He won't be discouraged like some of the other fighters that fought Floyd. He will be more like Maidana but he is bigger and a lot better than the Argentinean. Which mean he will box at times land some jabs on Floyd here and there but most importantly he will disregard Floyd return fire, he will get on the inside and every shot in this range will hurt Floyd. Even shots on the shoulders and the elbows will be punishing. Floyd has no prayer at 160 against Golovkin. At 154 it's a completely different story.
     
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    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You really believe that Floyd comes at 148 for his WW fights. He more like 155-158 IMHO
     
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    Hearns can outbox Burley, SRR, SRL, Tito...etc, no one is doubting that Hearns was a master at using his 78", the problem was falling apart in later Rounds. He can't defeat any of the Top 5 ATGs listed because they were not smaller Duran 135/Benitez 140 & they were mentally tough & strong to come at him harder at the later part of the 15 rounds (SRL blueprint), Tito was the only on the list from the 12 rd era, but he was a true KO Artist who didn't care about being outboxed, he was the GOAT low blow puncher, he went for that option everytime it was available & accepted a 1 pt deduction in return for securing a KO later in the fight (KO artist mentality), Hearns will get KTFO 10/10 at Welterweight (While being ahead on score cards, Hearns was strong early rds, but lost steam & legs as the fight went on), Hearns at 154 & above starts gaining an advantage over Tito who was best at Welterweight, so Hearns is being strictly judged here as a Welterweight

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    He's been weighed several times on fight night. Below are a couple I remember of the top of the head.

    2006 vs Judah he weighed 146 on fight night
    2006 vs Baldomir he weighed 149 on fight night
    2011 vs Ortiz he weighed 150 on fight night
    2013 vs Canelo he weighed 150 on fight night
    2014 vs Maidana he weighed 148 on fight night
     
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    Does anyone seriously think Pac couldn't/can't "just fight like Maidana"? The reason the Maidana fight was as it was is because Mayweather fought the entire fight in the pocket. He doesn't do that with fighters of top quality, he hits and moves. 160 for GGG is a move too far for Mayweather, but if it was at 154 Mayweather would beat him - even the old version out there now.
     
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    Canelo dry weigh in was 151, fight weigh in is weight geared up + some kind of meal/hydration so it has to be near 155
     
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    Yes...he has weighed in unofficially at this weight for several of his WW fights. Even in his fights at 154 he has weighed 149 -151. I am not sure where people get the 155-158. There is no precedence for it.
     
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    floyd scared of asians:deal
     
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    Pac is one dimensional, Golovkin has much more tools. Even prime for prime pound for pound Golovkin would put a boxing clinic on Pacman.
     
  15. eltirado

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    Floyd is really considering this fight, he is probably waiting for the Wade fight to see if GGG can keep up the historic consecutive KO title defense streak, Undefeated Wade is is the hardest fight of GGG career :smoke