When did you first notice Hector Camacho's decline?

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  1. Jay1990

    Jay1990 Active Member Full Member

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    Because everybody says after the rosario fight... I thought he was still a great fighter even after his fight with rosario. But what are y'all opinons???
     
  2. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was the beginning of his decline

    He was never mentally the same

    He was very tentative against Boza, then moved up

    He looked pretty good against Howard Davis, and it appeared he had recovered a bit mentally, as he didn't run too much, as he had in the Boza fight

    But, then he just disapeared. He must have had personal, management problems, or just thought he could get by on his name.

    He failed to fight any of the top 140 guys, instead fighting a comebacking Mancini in early 1989 - a full 2 yrs after his good showing against Davis

    The truth is, after the Davis fight he screwed up his career. He could have fought 140 champs like Coggi or Roger Mayweather, but really showed no interest in fighting top fighters any longer, or couldn't get the fights for some reason.

    Amazingly, he used his name to get big money fights for many more years, but after the Davis fight he was a declining fighter.
     
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  3. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing

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    Great fighter! was he ever knocked down?
     
  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always thought he went the career without a knockdown, but someone on here stated that DeLaHoya dropped him - and I had seen the DeLaHoya fight - but didn't remember it. But sure enough, Oscar dropped Camacho. It doesn't detract, however, from the fact that Hector had one intense set of whiskers.
     
  5. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing

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    :good
     
  6. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That one single punch from Rosario caused him to change his style almost completely.
     
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  7. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At Jr Lightweight Hector Really did seem to have it all, Superb Mobility Superb Boxing ability And punching Ability that could not be ignored, I dont know who i would of favoured to beat him...

    At Lightweight i think the Rosario fight came as a very unpleasant surprize, Shaken to his boots, and with an inability to deter Edwin Hector got a rude Awakening, Likewise in the Boza fight Hector Put Boza down with a Lovely Shot, was the old Hector back ? No, Boza did was Boza Did, got up, Dusted himself Down, then went looking for War, Boza spent practically all the fight looking to Engage with Hector and Hector just wanted to keep out of the way, One felt for Boza who just wanted to do what he was there for, Fight

    I dont know how dedicated Hector was outside the ring, But i think his Mindset changed from Being great to not getting hurt, he continued to'Box' Top Class opponents, but the challenge seemed to change to 'Stop me if you can' Look i'm still Dancing...

    A Great Talent at Jr Lightweight Hector put the substance into Storage and went Travelling upwards with just the Style..
     
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  8. Hookie

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    DeLaHoya dropped him, he also lost a point for excessive holding vs. Oscar. Trinidad hurt him but I don't believe he dropped Camacho, he lost a point for excessive holding in this fight as well. He managed to go the distance vs. DeLaHoya, Trinidad, and Chavez, that's about all he did vs. these 3.
     
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  9. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe one of the few that beat Duran twice, and TKO'ed SR Leonard.
     
  10. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With respect that doesn't mean much as both Duran and Leonard were totally shot then.
     
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  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post

    Rosario changed him

    Look at how Camacho easily dominated Jose Luiz Ramirez, but then fought tentatively against Boza. Ramirez was just as dangerous as Boza, probably moreso. Camacho was full off aggressiveness and confidence against Ramirez.
     
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  12. salsanchezfan

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    He also had to "get his head right" upon moving up to 135 in 1984 and took an extended period off then. I just don't think the guy had a lot of mental capacity, quite frankly. Not slow per se, but he just seemed to have this hyperactive, scattered way of coming across that made me think there were some shorted circuits in there. Not sure he had it in him to buckle down and take anything too seriously for very long.
     
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  13. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really noticed his footspeed slowing down 3 days afeter he was buried. It tooks his hands about 2 weeks:hi:
     
  14. Xplosive

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    One of Camacho's best performances is when he completely schooled Howard Davis, and that was AFTER the Rosario fight. That was 1987. Camacho was still in his prime in 87.

    I'd say the correct answer is the early 90s. By 1990 his speed and reflexes had slowed from what they were in the early-to-mid 80s.

    By time he lost to Haugen in the first fight, he definitely was on the decline.

    All due respect to Greg Haugen, who was a damn good fighter, but the Camacho of 85 would have shut out Haugen.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    He definitely lost some confidence and ****iness after the Rosario fight, which was pretty paramount to him. Agree he was certainly ordinary by the time he was beaten by Haugen.

    Rosario had some of the heaviest hands in the history of the 135 division, his power was truly immense.

    Have to remember as well Macho lived life in a pretty fast lane.
     
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