It's easier to avoid punches than to land punches ?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...or whatever, just expect simplistic easily digestible nuggets of straightforward logic. :roll:

    Nothing in life is complicated, everything is black and white. Carry on.
     
  2. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Or possibly you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. Of course Mayweather is difficult to hit as would be Whitaker, that goes without saying. Fewer boxers are known for their defense than for their offense.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Talents like them are one in a million and they put in hard work far beyond 99% of their peers to fine-tune it. That's why their defense makes them at times seem (or even be) nigh untouchable.

    FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON (or even above-average, very talented people, including those in the sport, including seasoned vets and even champions...basically anyone that isn't a freak of natural athletic talent *combined* with an obsessive drive to sharpen their craft ...so a minuscule sliver of anyone that has ever fought) defense is harder than boxing 101 but easier than applied offense.
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    It is easier for Floyd to avoid getting hit, when he works in gym on his defense 24/7, than it is to actually land on Floyd, so the fighters who know how to effectively cut off the ring and land punches on a fighter that's sole intention is to NOT GET HIT are more impressive.

    Thus far no one has been entirely successful as of to date in landing on Floyd enough to actually beat him, so therefore when someone figures out how, that will mean they are brilliant offensive fighter.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

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    :good
     
  6. Gannicus

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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Inevitably someone will bring up Maidana. Fact is he sharpened his offense under Garcia and improved to where he is probably in the "very good" category (in universal h2h terms)...not a "brilliant offensive fighter" as CST indicated would be necessary to beat Floyd (and that is pretty much true) - but "very good" combined with having the right style to bother Floyd by disrupting his personal defensive rhythm. That old "styles make fights" thing... much as Márquez was a Pacquiao specialist, Maidana had a style that elevates his baseline "very good" offense to be significantly more potent specifically against Mayweather due to his awkward style being just the right sort of kryptonite.
     
  8. cslb

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  9. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    a lot of good responses here. I often see low level fights were lots of punches are thrown but few lands and it was not due to good head movement. I believe their offensive skills have not developed to focus on the target.
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I was waiting for that too. :lol: Good job of cutting them off at the pass.
     
  11. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It would depend who is throwing the punches.
     
  12. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    those who lack power, weak chin, and doesn't want to get hurt has no other option in order to make money and be relevant in the sport
     
  13. champ1

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    Theres no easy answer to this, nonetheless I have always been more impressed with accurate clean punchers over the evasive guys.

    James Toney sitting in the pocket, picking apart Iran Barkley is something that should be applauded.

    But what should not be applauded – and some people did – was David Hayes evasive performance against Klitscho.

    Before anyone butts in to tell me that Haye wasn’t applauded for anything in that fight. I do remember various media outlets, for all klitschos dominance - critiscing Klitschos accuracy and praising Hayes Athletiscm.

    Manny Steward went on to say that Haye could only perform so athletically evasive (at times) because he wasn’t even looking to counter. Being evasive is overrated.

    PS I’m glad Lara didn’t get the decision v Canelo
     
  14. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nothing wrong with getting it. As long as you fire back asap. Sometimes even 1 punch could be the difference in winning the round.
     
  15. J.BULLA

    J.BULLA Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thank god this turned out to be a very interesting thread with very little fraff

    Thanks all