ATG's Who Threw the Jab With Elbow Flared

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I am in no way saying that they are wrong or that my way that I through it is supreme over all. I just see a lot of fighters do it, that's where I picked up the habit myself.

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    There has to be a connection here. I'm sure it is something everybody knows but me lol. Can you please enlighten me?
     
  2. turpinr

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    Frank Bruno might not be an all time great but he did win a world title.
    When he threw the jab it didn't even seem to be in one movement, the elbow came out then he threw it.
    Didn't seem to have his shoulder behind.
    As throwing the jab is almost the first thing you learn, I was surprised.
    I think Charles and Robinson are amongst the very best left hookers and their elbow being flared is a good position to throw either the jab of the hook
     
  3. Jake_Lamotta

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    You guys saying Charles, Robinson and Louis flared elbows on jabs/hooks? You gave a three second clips of Charles shadow boxing! There stances are rear leg/hip dominant head off centre line! When Louis and Robinson are throwing there jabs in those clips there dipping to there right! I don't see elbow flare!
     
  4. Jake_Lamotta

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    How are elbows flared a good position to throw a jab or hook? Please explain sir
     
  5. Mr.DagoWop

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    I'm 100% sure Louis and Robinson were moving to there left. Charles was moving to the right but on the bag he was moving to the left and still doing it.
     
  6. Jake_Lamotta

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    Both are moving to there left in those clips! Did not see any elbow flare with Charles on heavy bag! Elbow flare is bad, makes the punch more shoulder dependant which can increase risk of injury to that area!
     
  7. Mr.DagoWop

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    I don't know if its elbow flare or what but they aren't jabbing by rotating the fist.
     
  8. Jake_Lamotta

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    Look at there hand position/angle of hand before they throw the jab!
     
  9. Mr.DagoWop

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    That's what I was thinking, I need to change my hand positioning.
     
  10. Jake_Lamotta

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    Can you explain how you jab step by step please? Just want to see if we are on the same page! I throw my jab off my rear hip/leg!
     
  11. Mr.DagoWop

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    Step 1. Step forward from the back leg
    Step 2. (Done simultaneously as step 1.) Throw the jab by turning the shoulder, elbow, and wrist
    Step 3. Bring hand back to original position

    As soon as the front foot lands the fist should make contact with the target.

    I throw double and triple jabs a lot by turning the wrist and elbow. This may look like an elbow flare.
     
  12. Jake_Lamotta

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    I don't understand turning the elbow part? How is your weight distribution? Do you always step in with the jab? I throw triple jabs same as Felix Trinidad
     
  13. Mr.DagoWop

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    The elbow is turned as a product of turning the shoulder and wrist. Meaning it is not in the same place as it was at the beginning of the jab and is turned out to the side when contact is made.

    My weight distribution stays the same. I don't move it onto the front foot or the back foot, it stays equal.

    I only step in when I have enough room on the bag. Against an opponent it's only if I am trying to close the distance.
     
  14. turpinr

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    I didn't say it was a good position to throw a jab or a hook.
    What I said was, it's what Robinson and Charles both seemed to doing.
    Both got away with leading with the hook and with the elbow flared, the hook doesn't have to travel as far.
    As for me, I threw my jab, starting with my elbow by my ribs, and turned my fist round so it was parallel to the canvas.
    All time greats can get away with mistakes, mere mortals can't.
     
  15. Mr.DagoWop

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    Jake_Lamotta I think the difference between arm punching and how I punch is my elbows flare halfway through the punch. In an arm punch and traditional telegraphing the fighter flares their elbow before they even "let go" of the punch.