Marvin Hagler v Joe Calzaghe

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  1. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe by easy decision. Speed and size.
     
  2. BCS8

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    The real question is whether Hagler can seriously hurt Calzaghe who did have a very good chin. If he can, then he needs to knock him out because he's not outworking Joe. I think Calzaghe could take it on points, he did beat some very good names in his time. But if I'm wrong, I wouldn't be shocked, let's put it like that.
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    hagler would mince Kessler. During Mikkels's MW career, Kessler got nowhere above national level, and only took off in the vacuum of SMW. Jusging by MIkkels MW career, Hagler absolutely destroys him - Kessler wouldn't even get near a shot at his title.

    prime Hagler might well be the first to stop 40something Hopkins, and certainly outhustles him.

    joe showed no interest in taking up andres offer of a fight, though was always happy to fight the Will Mcintyres of the world for 11 years.

    but haggler I am sure would have given ward a tremendous battle.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    For those saying Hagler was too small.

    Hagler proved too big for Tommy Hearns who was big enough to out point a prime Virgil Hill which is a better scalp than any of Calzaghe's career.
     
  5. FastHands(beeb)

    FastHands(beeb) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very well put...
     
  6. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was really meaning the Kessler at SMW who was a solid all round boxer, still you would have to fancy Hagler.

    At middleweight Hagler is one of the ATG along with SRR who could potentially stop B-Hop.

    Andre Ward has the tools to beat Hagler but over a gruelling contest I am not sure.

    Calzaghe had the workrate to defeat Ward, would be a really close fight IMO.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    workrate doesn't beat skill, not in someone close to prime.

    well prime bhop would be something else, much close, a SD for the Hag.

    but yeh old man bhop gets potentially stopped first time by prime Marv.
     
  8. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Although not as skilled as Ward, Calzaghe was still class. Throw his workrate (pressure & heart) in with over a 1000 punches a fights then he has a chance of beating Ward.
     
  9. HerolGee

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    I dontthink so, his "skills" were really just volume from fitness (which was admittedly elite), protection from refs in Wales, and being an awkward prospect for others by dint of being a southpaw. Obviously he was not unskilled either, he was at Eurolevel in that department.

    He always trailed in accuracy behind anyone of note he fought (Kessler (until he went one handed) and Hopkins). Reid also was ahead in accuracy.
     
  10. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    this
     
  11. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I agree his accuracy could have been better.

    Still he was an excellent fighter. He would not have beat prime Jones but no shame in that.
     
  12. HerolGee

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    true, my friend, though I would go with him being pretty good rather than very good.



    cowardzaghe fans will be pleased to know that the documentary that joe made about himself MR Cowardzaghe ( which bombed at the cinema, not being shown barely anywhere) has been screened on the BBC tonight just weeks after its DVD release.

    however it was only on BBC Wales, it seems the rest of the UK was not interested enough to give it aberth, instead going with screening a Womens friendly football match as being more important than joes wbo travails. (I am just telling you what they are doing, don't blame me for the BBC not showing much interest).

    This will at least appease his welsh fans, who have been given the chance to watch the movie for free.
     
  13. Fergy

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    I like this. Maybe not the ideal oppenent for Marvin. He'd lose by decision imo.
     
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  14. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Providing Marvin's not impeded by being the signifigantly smaller guy,he outpoints Joe.
    Hagler's southpaw stance and sheer toughness gives him the edge.

    Would be a close one though.
     
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  15. Mark Dunham

    Mark Dunham Well-Known Member Full Member

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    honestly, I dont think Joe belongs anywhere near Hagler

    Even though Joe is gifted, to say the least, Hagler would make him look very VERY bad