Loeffler: Gilberto Ramirez is Golovkin’s best option if no Canelo

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  1. Karl

    Karl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ggg destroys Turdo.

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  2. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    there you go trying to put words in my mouth that i didnt say....no i wasnt saying that kova fight was a bargaining chip...because if youve ever read anything ive said on the matter ive said 100x that theres no way the fight happens now since ward is now a lhw

    ward still makes the same money....those "bums" sure as heck had no problem coming to get it....barrera was begging for it on twitter which you losers got a big kick out of (of course we also learned that means nothing when a guy like lara calls ggg out on twitter..."oh my god how bout you actually go call a guy out in person it means nothing on twitter)".....

    sergey kovalev is more than happy to go get some "bum wages" with ward.....

    i bet ward makes more money than ggg from the start of 2016 to the end of 2018
     
  3. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    you guys are too stupid to get the picture

    ggg says "164 ...maybe in 2017 its possible"....and ward is like "ok ya no.....ight then...imma go to hbo and get what you make to fight a couple of tuneups...then im gonna make some bank and beat kovalev...and when i do then im gonna name my price"........meanwhile ggg will stuck making that "ward tuneup money" fighting nobodies that wont enhance his legacy
     
  4. box4life11

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  5. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I know, my point is that I find this level of thinking a bit backwards, he's unproven so he should take one of the riskiest fights to prove himself that I can actually even think of in the last decade, it doesn't work that way, it actually goes more the other way around, the more proven guys take on tougher challenges to prove themselves even further.
     
  6. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    The fight sucks ass, I think they are playing it a bit too safe but there's a difference between saying things like "Oh GGG's not proven yet, he's still not faced an elite level guy to put him on his p4p lists" which I totally agree with, it's pretty much a fact, and calling him a coward and **** specifically for not fighting Ward, that's when I know people are full of ****.
     
  7. The Shockmaster

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    I think "a bit too safe" is an understatement personally

    I just think its kind of cowardly to call say "anyone at 168"...and attempt to make a fight with big chavez....and have your promoter mention big Ramirez....but then avoid ward while yer fans say "ward is too big"...."ward is irrelevant".....if ggg fans just admitted what you've said "ward is career suicide...hes too skilled and good"....then I prob wouldn't have a problem....but 90 percent of them make weak excuses and go around in circles contradicting themselves to give ggg a pass
     
  8. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Kind of like you do with Canelo and Cotto?
    Weak excuses and giving them full pass for ducking GGG.

    Funny how things work with you Shockmaster.
     
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  9. The Shockmaster

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    I don't make excuses for canelo...ive admitted what hes doing isn't exactly right....I just said I could see how he feels like he can defend it at a cw since that's how he earned it.....I don't like what hes doing....but I knew that's how he was gonna run things and what he was gonna do so I urged ggg to make a sacrifice in order to further his career and stature....to enhance his legacy

    cotto didn't need ggg for anything....cotto was in cashout mode....he knew there was no point in fighting ggg....he doesn't belong in there with him......if you think he does...then maybe pac should fight ggg too......
     
  10. The Shockmaster

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    Your overkill on Golovkin speaks volumes. Get a ****ing life..
    Saitov is online now Report Post Top

    you keep feeling the need to point it out to me...what you fail to realize is you aren't going to stop me

    you wanna debate? ok...im game....you wanna talk about it? sure.....but yer pointless drivel is just that
     
  11. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    You're so cuddly and understanding of Canelo and Cotto lol.
    How cute...more weak excuses and going around in circles.

    You've found in every GGG thread slamming him, you never do the same for Canelo (because apparently you're very understanding of his situation :lol: )
     
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  12. The Shockmaster

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    canelo and cotto don't need "excuses " lewis...I know this is hard for you to grasp

    but they have perfectly good reasons....its called "big fights"....

    see...cotto/Sergio brought cotto more money than ggg would have.....then he made around 20 mil for fighting canelo

    canelo will be fighting a well known fighter who has 1.5 mill twitter followers...and when hes done other well known fighters will be lining up to fight him

    meanwhile...ggg....will be fighting dominic wade...and then maybe taureano Johnson and Jorge heiland

    you dig? you get that concept yet?

    doesn't ggg want big fights? isn't that why he was chasing chavez and froch?

    see...cotto has been in many big fights.....has a hof career and resume....and he got more big fights without ggg...bigger fights than ggg.......and canelo will likely do the same

    I don't have to make excuses for them...because they have perfectly good built in reasons

    ggg has nothing but 2 mil dollar bum fights....that's why hes the bumdog millionaire
     
  13. alspacka

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    Golovkin will be undisputed champ by the end of the year :deal

    Then the big fights will come to him. He's patient. A little too patient perhaps.
     
  14. The Shockmaster

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    what big fights?

    Jacobs? saunders? I guess I wouldn't mind seeing those....they are pretty good matchups....but nothing big
     
  15. madpuppy

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    Why is GGG cowardly because of what some people he doesn't even know say on the internet? It is an absolutely bizarre statement.