Is Canelo a disgrace to the middleweight title?

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why is he facing a Welterweight in Khan?

    Why did John Ruiz face a Light Heavyweight in Roy Jones?

    Why did Donny Lalonde face a Welterweight / Middleweight in Sugar Ray Leonard?

    Why does anyone move up to capture a bigger heavier title?

    Khan is a tall, rangy “welterweight” who is outgrowing that division and is essentailly a Light Middleweight for all intents and purposes. This is Light Middleweight + 1. The +1 being important because it’s in the Middleweight division.

    Khan’s willingness to move up and make the biggest fight out there is good for boxing. Here we have a situation where a 155 catchweight actually makes sense and is fair to both fighters.
     
  2. alspacka

    alspacka Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bro 160 sucks, as ****y as a Khan fight is outside of GGG who the hell wants to see or cares about fights like Canelo-Geale, Johnson, Rosado
    Maybe Saunders or Jacobs but thats.

    Was it a disgrace when Hopkins last unfied the division at a catch weight 1lb above where Alvarez won the belt at.

    I get both sides but all this sh!t about how Middle weight is so prestigious the last guy to unify all four belts did it at a catch weight.
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    If he ducks GGG, then yes
     
  5. ISPEAKUMTROOTH

    ISPEAKUMTROOTH Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im shocked hes even got 2 votes for him actually but as it shows this forum has a small percentage of pure idiots.
     
  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    No, the MW title is a digrace to the MW title. Canelo won that joke of a title from Cotto who won it at a catchweight, who defended it twice at a catchweight.

    The belt is tainted and should not be given much credibilty.

    The WBC allowed this to happen, and Miguel Cotto took advantage.

    Canelo is one of the few big names out there willing to fight top fighter after top fighter. If only other fighters such as GGG were willing to do the same regardless of a few pounds.
     
  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    A bunch of idiots who don't reralize that the title is garbage and that Canelo did not create the CW for this title. Who did he beat to win it? Who did that fighter beat and defend it against and at what weight?

    It seems every fighter is willing to compromise something to make the fights happen except for GGG.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Was Floyd a disgrace when he tried to drain Canelo to 150?

    Was Cotto a disgrace when he drained Geale to 157?

    How is this fight more disgraceful than those two examples? WhatÂ’s disgraceful is when fighters try to weaken their opponents and make them unhealthy.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great point, and as we all know the 155 catchweight benefits Khan. Khan said he would NOT have fought Canelo had it been at 160.
     
  10. IsaL

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    Uh, neither those two guys invented CWs. In fact the belt that Canelo has he won it from a fighter who won it at a CW, defended it at a CW, and lost it at a CW.

    Bernard Hopkins and Marvin Hagler both defended their titles against former LWs and WWs at the full 160 limit.

    Why did Hopkins face WW ODLH, Trinidad, Jr. MW Wright? Why did Hagler face LW Duran, WW Leonard, WW Hearns?

    Why was GGG willing to face WW Mayweather, Lightweight Pacquiao?

    GTFO with all that :|:|:| from Triple Hypocirte fans.
     
  11. IsaL

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    To me it seems like Canelo is one of the few fighters trying to make big and exciting fights happen.

    Canelo fought extremely slick and slipperyt Lara despite his camp advising against it, he fought very slick Trout after he humiliated Cotto, he faced Angulo who almost KTFO Lara, faced power punching Kirkland, and faced P4P#1 Mayweather at a catchweight benefiting Mayweather.

    Why doesn't GGG have the same drive and ambition to make fights happen regardless of compromises.
     
  12. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't really see Canelo parading his titles around. Canelo is bigger than that JOKE of a title at MW. The WBC MW title is tainted..
     
  13. IsaL

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    Cotto won it at a Catchweight, Cotto successfully defended it at a CW, and Cotto lost it to Canelo at a CW.

    Canelo can drop the belt, hand deliver it to GGG, offer the fight at 155, and GGG would probably still decline... Who is really ducking who?

    Canelo already said 155... GGG hasn't attempted to all Canelo's bluff or counter with something else.
     
  14. ISPEAKUMTROOTH

    ISPEAKUMTROOTH Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks for outing yourself.
    Its good when the idiots let themselves be known.:yep
     
  15. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Let me ask you a question from one diehard boxing fan to another.. DO YOU care more about seeing GGG hold all the belts at MW, or do you care more about GGG fighting the best possible opposition out there regardless of titles?