I am a boxing manager: if you have questions about the boxing biz, ask!

The Vargas career was an absolute example of a fighter to put in layman's terms a fighter thrown to the wolves or the USA term thrown under the bus!

The fighters he fought in the timescale scandalous if you manage a fighter correctly and tied in with the promoter the mindset should be to build fights and more so your fighter.He was cashed out before he was able to develop as a fighter.

The names he fought plenty HOF in or potential.Guys take Winky Wright totally respected here UK wise by fans of my generation.He wasn't a big draw Stateside to my knowledge and came here to the UK and made some decent coin.Ensley Bingham who had serious pop,Steve Foster,Adrian Dodson took them all to school and bar Bingham easy money.

He went back home with some decent money in his pocket,reputation intact lost to Simon and Vargas career over certainly not.

Wright went on to beat Mosely,Tito Trinidad and Quartey in his last fight.Timeline that to the cashed out Vargas who to my knowledge was certainly a draw at the gate and TV.

 

I wanted to watch this fight..but couldnt find the complete fight on you tube..i did chk both fighters in diferent fights..
The way i see it-
Bad opponent for Douglas!..Douglas is not skilled enough to deal with this type of fighter(a "bar slugger"is always dangerous)..Douglas just doesnt yet have the skills..but imo--thats what happens when you focus only on getting 'wins'on your record..and not focusing on advancing the fighters skill level..just lying to youself & to your fighter..😕
Also..I dont see any conviction on Douglas..he looks like his in a sparring session.(from the fights ive seen).thats one thing i see- ALOT- with boxers nowadays demps.-NO CONVICTION-(dont know if you agree )..
To me when i see a fighter with no conviction..just going through the motions..and not wanting to finish the deal..he either has the wrong mentality or there is no passion there(most likely!)...no matter what the fighter record says...
Also,i dont know the details..but starting from the trainers..to fighter..to..manager..
This fight shouldve been a no deal-
Not very hard to see that Douglas not yet ready skill wise...

 

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How is it going with training - kilo.?..where you able to get your foot in the door yet?..
We're on same boat..im also looking for a gym thats willing to take me in-dont care about pay for now..
I know once i get in there-- i can make a difference..i broke my arm a while back..but its almost completely healed-almost ready to start doing what i love.

 

Hope i have what it takes Demps.(training).
Hope to find 💎's in the rough ,,polish them..and maybe you could show them to the world?..😏
..just out of curiosity (and incouragement)..how old were you when your fighter was crowned world champion ?(Jesus 'Matador'Chavez).
.How many years did it take your team to get him there?
Lastly--did he already know how to fight when you started working with him?.(how many fights under his belt).
THNX...you guys did awesome work with him by the way!

 

Dempsey, did you have any encounters or stories regarding Mayweather during his fight with Chaves?

 

I seen this fight and couldnt understand why the Douglas team would accept such a tough stand in? It bad to loose a fight but terrible to take a beating like this kid did. Its when I see things like this that really give me the motivation to get involved on the management side of the game.

 

Cool hope we can exchange some experiences/advice since we're both at the starting point in our careers. I havent started working at a gym yet , I currently enrolled in the local community college where Im taking some classes that I think would be beneficial. The Classes Im taking are Business Communication Studies,Foundations of Exercise Science,Business Math, Payroll and Accounting. Im also making it a habit of showing up at the New Mexico athletics commission open board meetings held every month! Hows your progress going? good luck!

 

Awesome!...i havent started training guys yet..i started a small business and that has me tied down for now(couple more months)--but cant wait to get out of it and do what i really like.(boxing)..it be great if they had a college course or two on boxing management.lol..demps would be a great teacher 👍..i will let you know how it goes once i start..ill start at a gym here locally than maybe move to LA (2hr drive)..
So how are the Athletics Comm. meetings like?..what is discussed?..thnkx..also good luck to you.

 

demps--i have heard of fighters having more than one manager,what is the advantage of that?
Also-wouldnt that just complicate things?
Lastly,is that something you would advise a fighter to do?