Anyone Else Have Canelo LOSING To Lara???

I kind of agree but also don't, when I score fights I try and not to be distracted by a fighters demeanour in the ring. You don't just win fights by being aggressive or lose fights by being defensive.

But fact is ring generalship does effect how fights are scored and you can argue that it should be factored in, otherwise we are simply scoring fights on punches landed and in that scenario why bother with judges at all just score via compubox.

For example a fighter takes a hard shot, how that fighter reacts to that shot can effect scoring. If they take it but don't show distress and perhaps even fight back then people put less emphasis on that shot but if the fighter reacts by going into retreat even if he isn't that badly hurt or hurt at all it will make people believe that punch had more effect than it actually did and perhaps effect their view of that round of that moment in that round.

This effects how people score fights and it's why many think Lara lost a close fight, he put too much emphasis on Canelo's punches by reacting negatively to them. Had he been a little smarter in terms of ring generalship and how he portrayed himself in that fight he would have likely got the decision.

 

I remember scoring it for Lara by a single point. Too close and with enough close rounds to have no complain about the outcome, certainly because Lara was being pretty negative in there.

 

Ring generalship doesn't mean coming forward.

Nor does it mean necessarily moving backward. It does mean keeping yourself and your opponent positioned where YOU dictate. Lara did that. Canelo didn't. A negative fight with landed punches few and far between favors Lara, not Canelo. He dictated range and pace and his respective positioning with Canelo all night. Lara was the ring general.

 

lara clearly, clearly won....no question about it. even hbo, canelo's biggest fansboys had lara winning. canelo got the decision because he's the big name, big fanbase. lara has practically no fanbase.

in simple terms...lara getting robbed simply "didn't matter." lara winning would have made a lot more paying fans upset than robbing him and giving it to canelo.

 

116-112
Lara dictated and was in control of the fight from the opening to the closing bell.
Kahn is no Lara

 

The majority of people at the time had Lara narrowly winning. I think I had him up by a point at least. But more than that, it looked to me like he controlled the action and was just a way better boxer, making Canelo look completely ineffective even though he kept coming forward and throwing punches. I lost some respect for Lara, because he was doing whatever he wanted to do, but he chose to be boring and take no chances; but I couldn't deny how masterful he looked doing it, kind of like Mayweather or Rigondeaux.

 

Exactly that. But, I think that (even though I think he won by just a little bit) he deserved to lose.

 

Canelo 7-5.
Lara is a farce and does not deserve the victory, he was too negative of a fighter, he lacked ring generalship, too.

 

One of the things that I noticed during that fight was not only did Lara have the better technique and ring IQ, but he was also the better athlete. Physically, his conditioning looked better, a better build, with better muscles. He's got these long arms, wide shoulders, classic V torso like a ****ing superhero, whereas Canelo looked kind of squat and thick, sturdy but kind of built like a square or a cube if you know what I mean. I know that not every great boxer looks the same, and it's not just how you look, but I thought that Lara was just a much more impressive specimen. In the ring with Canelo, he made Canelo look stubby and dumpy, like a Clydesdale in there with a Thoroughbred racehorse.

 

I watched the fight once with and without commentary and had Canelo edge it out by 1 point both times. It was just one of those matches that could've gone either way. I do think however that if Lara had more punch output, he would've likely won a decision. His constant retreat wasn't easy on the eyes

 

Draw

 

Draw.