James Toney vs Andre Ward at 168

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  1. Eastpaw

    Eastpaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think ward would win in an ugly fight. Toney wouldn't be able to find his range with ward, and that's the deciding factor in a bout between two methodical fighters.

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  2. attaboi

    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Toney by decision. Toney is top 10 one of the most skilled fighter of all time.
     
  3. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The problem with this question is that Andre Ward is always Andre Ward. He always comes focused, prepared and in shape.

    Toney, not so much.

    If we assume prime, focused and in shape Toney, he makes easy work of Ward. The other version of Toney gets outworked and loses a decision.
     
  4. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is a tough one, Toney was inconsistent back then @168 and Ward is always consistent. Toney doesn't have huge power. 50/50, I'd give Ward the edge on the slightest of margins. Doesn't necessarily mean I'd rate Ward over Tony ATG. Put older Tony's brain, around that period he beat Jirov, Holyfield and Ruiz, in his 168 self and I'd pick him over Ward.
     
  5. Jake LaMotta

    Jake LaMotta Lights Out Full Member

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    Ward by clear UD. Only a prime Jones is a threat to Ward at 168.
     
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  6. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. Capt

    Capt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward busts him up.
     
  8. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toney.....no question. By KO....Ward is competitive, but out boxed by the better technical boxer and most natural fighter boxing has produced in the last 50 years. If James only maximized his ability during his prime by dedicating himself to his preparation James could have been top 5 ATG

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl50iVr25R8&autoplay=1
     
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  9. GoldenArms

    GoldenArms Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Toney beats him up on the inside and wins a decision or maybe even hurts him and stops him. Ward can't bully James around the ring.
     
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  10. Bubba

    Bubba don't want to see more Tom and Jerry type matches Full Member

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    A motivated and in shape Toney stops Ward.

    People see Toney today and have no idea how amazing he was in his prime.
     
  11. Piece

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    Worst possible match up for Ward. Ward can't outbox Toney and can't beat him on the inside. Possibly gets knocked out.
     
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  12. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward was always very skillful on the inside which is strange to see as there is never much skill on the inside, he knew how to hit with the free arm and break the tied up arm out and start throwing shots, but Toney was even better on the inside I can't seem to make a prediction for this one
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Ward would win easily. He'd move laterally and Toney would constantly be resetting his feet.

    Some people really DKSAB
     
  14. Jake LaMotta

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    Still this
     
  15. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One guy was a master of his craft, the other was a manipulator of his craft.
     
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