Step back in time...........Andrew Golota versus Riddick Bowe 2

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Moralman, May 19, 2008.


  1. Missing_Person

    Missing_Person JUST CALL ME ORLANDO Full Member

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    Golota is still entertaining - is Bowe still continuing his comeback?

    That was a great fight MM,

    On a side note why arent u posting in the lounge?
     
  2. Mankind

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    Hindsight being 20/20 you could make the argument Bowe didnt look all the sharp in his KO effort against Holyfield. That is, until the KO came.

    I think bowe, albeit not an old fighter chronologically speaking he was probably losing it anyway...same way Mathew Saad Mohamad was reduced to a human punching bag by the age of 30.

    I also think Golotas style, size and strength made for a style nightmare for Bowe.

    It was probably good Bowe never fought Lewis .
     
  3. huki

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    The Bowe that defeated Holyfield in their first fight was not the same Bowe that defeated him in their third fight (and Holyfield clearly wasn't the same either). He also took a bad beating in that fight and the first Golota fight. Bowe wasn't exactly living a great, healthy lifestyle, so he became past-it pretty fast in his career. I don't understand how you could say he was peak against Golota in this fight, his reflexes/speed/etc. were not the same, not even close.
     
  4. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    I wouldn't bother.

    It would be as if to defend Bowe against a beating.

    Of course, boxing fans enjoy this, but I find it irrational.
     
  5. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Read above post.

    Fighters age and get hit in the head - part of the trade.

    With training, it is part of the sport.
     
  6. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    I understand now. I have actually posted in one of these threads, where I backed the Marvelous one to outpoint my all-time favourite Eubank.
     
  7. Moralman

    Moralman Member Full Member

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    Dear Orlando
    kind regards
    I am not posting in the lounge as a result of the agreement that Mankind made with RossTheBoss.
    I was reinstated but I am not permitted, as of yet, to post at the ESB Lounge.
    My access is restricted to the Lounge, I can't go there, the ban to the lounge still applies.
    It doesn't really bother me much at the moment, I like doing these great boxing threads, it takes me back to the days when I first began posting here.
    I would like to be able to post at the Lounge in the future, but I know that I will have certain conditions placed on my posting there.
    Even when I get reinstated at the Lounge, I will still likely concentrate on these wonderful boxing threads which I enjoy creating.
    Let it be known also that I have made a truce with much of the online forum community.
    I will extend a truce to ALL ESB lounge members, those who refuse to accept my truce will be ignored, as such people want to draw me into a confrontation to get me banned again.
    I want to be an objective poster who wants to discuss issues rather than engage in the heated debates that have so characterized my time online.
    yours thankfully
    John
     
  8. joe33

    joe33 Guest

    All right john,i guess im one of the guys who in the past used to take the **** out of you,i did not get you,thought you were on a big old wind up,but i think i may have been wrong about this,so though i bet you dont even remember who i am :lol:,i hope for one you are let back in,as you are i feel in your heart a decent and good man:good

    Great fight to highlight,the beating bowe took (as did andrew it has to be said at times) was brutal,andrew had both fights in his hands and then god knows what may have happened had he won,that may have been the key to settle for ever his fragile mind,a win can do wonders for any sportsman,obviously he lost it big time at the end of both bouts,and then later on agaisnt lewis and tyson very sad to see what may had his brain been wired right one of the best fighters of the 90s,any way good thread:hi:
     
  9. Moralman

    Moralman Member Full Member

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    Dear Joe33
    kind regards
    In response to your comments.

    Well I certainly enjoyed the heated exchanges that went on in the Lounge but I want to go beyond that now.

    Yes, you were the guy who came into my thread about Jake Robert's snake bite attack on the Ultimate Warrior and said that wrestling was for homosexuals.

    :lol:

    Don't worry, I don't hold it against you.

    Thank you for your kind words and I am glad that you accepted the truce.

    Golota's fragile mind was his own problem and no one elses.
    Even if Golota beat Bowe twice I still think that Lewis would have beaten him.
    yours thankfully
    John
     
  10. joe33

    joe33 Guest

    Cool you remember me,that wrestling comment was way childish by me,so sorry about that.

    Yes i agree lewis would have probaly won,but what im getting at is if he had had two good solid wins over bowe and not the 2 dqs,he may have turned out a different man,those must keep him up at night and weigh on his mind,for the simple reason "What if i had keep my head and won?"
     
  11. Taylor_brogdon

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    Hey MM, this cat named Knowledge is taking your spot in the lounge as the "moral one"......look him up, although I think someone high jacked his account cuz he started cussing...idk.
     
  12. Irländsk

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    My favourite fight of the 90's, between 2 of the most skilled fighters of that decade, Golota had the physical tools to be the best of that era, but was betrayed by his psychological problems. Golota ended Bowe's career in those two fights, and Riddick took Andrew down more than a couple of notches as well.
    This fight saw Bowe survive two of the most lopsided rounds not ending in a KO in HW history, and Golota inexplicably fouling Bowe repeatedly despite having him at his mercy. I'm as speechless watching it now as I was the first time.
     
  13. Moralman

    Moralman Member Full Member

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    Dear Liston_Tyson
    kind regards
    I am not permitted to enter the Lounge.
    By the way, I hope that you will accept my truce and contribute to my boxing threads.
    As a professional boxer in the making, your views are always welcome.
    yours thankfully
    John
     
  14. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Dear Moralman
    kind regards
    I think the step back in time series should cover something way back for the new fans. I'm thinking Dempsey vs. Willard.
    Nothing against Golota, I just don't personally care about him or his career much, never was a fan.
    yours thankfully
    Amsterdam
     
  15. Moralman

    Moralman Member Full Member

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    Dear Joe33
    kind regards
    In response to your comments.

    Of course I accept your apology, but I found the comments to be amusing at the time.
    I hope that you accept my apologies for anything that I said in response.

    To be honest, I agree with George Foreman's analysis.
    Golota threw the low blows on purpose, he obviously got tired and took to the streets, but he knew what he was doing.
    At the time, I thought that Golota did it to add intrigue to himself, as if he was deliberately playing a mysterious and uncontrollable villain.
    If Golota had more confidence in himself he could have been a real money maker, even on the level of Tyson.
    The most positive thing that we can say is that at least Golota knows how to save his money and look after his family.
    There is no greater achievement than that.
    yours thankfully
    John