Tyson

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  1. GrimReaper

    GrimReaper Randi's Bulldog Full Member

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    I am always called a Mike Tyson hater, but, and probably will after this too but im not a hater just a realist about the fact that Mike was VERY overrated. Sure he was a descructive recking machine, but he was always pretty easy pickins for anyone with good movement, a good jab, and no fear. I remember when he faught Lennox, I was like the only one in my school who thought Lennox would win, and thats because everyone was caught up in the tyson hype. Anyone can look good against bums, but when Mike faught good fighters who werent scared, he got KO'd
     
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  2. GrimReaper

    GrimReaper Randi's Bulldog Full Member

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    Another thing, people seem to think Tyson was in his prime pre Duglass. No way a guy can be in their prime if theyre that young and havent faught nothing but bums and old guys
     
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  3. P.4.P.G.O.A.T.

    P.4.P.G.O.A.T. Q Boro Killa Bee Full Member

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    Nothing overrated about a 20 year old Tyson trained and cared for by Cus D'Amato. That Tyson would have beaten many of the top heavies.
     
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  4. GrimReaper

    GrimReaper Randi's Bulldog Full Member

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    I agree he would beat many of todays heavys, but ive heard things on this site like Tyson was the besy heavy ever, and he would knock out Frazier, Foreman, and someoneeven said he would beat Ali
     
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  5. P.4.P.G.O.A.T.

    P.4.P.G.O.A.T. Q Boro Killa Bee Full Member

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    Maybe he could have handled Foreman, but Ali and Frazier would have owned Tyson.
     
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  6. GrimReaper

    GrimReaper Randi's Bulldog Full Member

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    I think Foreman would have bounced his ass around in the same fashion he did Frazier
     
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  7. Jetset78

    Jetset78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fighters prime at different stages of their careers. Tyson primed early and was a shell of his former self when he lost to Lewis. He was already declining when he fought Douglas. Nobody's fault but his own so I have no sympathy for him.

    For me, prime Tyson beats Foreman & Frazier and without a doubt Lewis. I think Ali would have taken him on decision (even though Ali himself said that Tyson would have beaten him).
     
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  8. GrimReaper

    GrimReaper Randi's Bulldog Full Member

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    Just how was Tyson declining when he faught Douglass
     
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  9. rendog67

    rendog67 The firestarter Full Member

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    no way that would happen young tyson was way too hard to hit :-(
     
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  10. rendog67

    rendog67 The firestarter Full Member

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    what do you know about tyson?

    even though he was outclassed he was on the decline against douglas that is for sure
     
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  11. ThePlugInBabies

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    mentally he was going to pieces, the demons were rising.

    not to mention rooney had been given the boot by king and they hired some hilariously inept trainers to take over.

    seriously, this thread blows.
     
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  12. Jetset78

    Jetset78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In fact I believe his decline started when he fought Bruno 1. His head movement, footwork, hand speed and reflexes just weren't the same. I assume this was due to outside issues and lack of training.
     
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  13. Shaolin Box

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    Prime Tyson beats Foreman, Frazier and maybe even Ali...:deal
     
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  15. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1) Tyson was now mentally unstable, due to issues with his wife, Don King, etc.

    2) Tyson was stoned the night before the fight, barely trained (which was evident by Greg Page knocking him down in sparring).

    3) Tyson already changed his style. With Cus, it was defense first, and a strong offensive barrage with brutal combinations. By the Douglas fight, Tyson was just looking to load up one punch.


    You can love or hate the man. I'm in between. However, he was one of (if not the most) destructive force in the history of boxing.

    Tyson would've beaten Frazier (Tyson was just a Frazier style, except bigger, stronger, and faster). Plus, Frazier had a tendancy to get in trouble early in fights. If that occurred against Tyson, it was over.

    Prime Foreman also would lose to Tyson. He was just too slow and sloppy to pentetrate that perfect Cus defense. Tyson was a machine. He was short, compact, and extremely quick. Also, Foreman's chin wasn't as good as Tyson's.
     
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