Fighters whom we never saw in their primes

Sanchez, Les D'Arcy.

 

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No, I have to say Ali (summer of 67-summer of 70)
Interestingly, with Ali active during that period, it might have gotten downright boring?! The elimination tournament was exciting and Joe's 'other' title produced some good bouts (Quarry?).
I honestly don't see anyone in that period giving him a really good s****, outside of Frazier but can anyone see a 68-69-70 Joe actually prevailing? Tough fight yes, but Ali all the way; heck, he fought Joe after coming back from his exile roughly 90 days after a tough Bonavena test (against his handler's wishes). Summer of 71 would have been a better time for the two of them to unify and, IMO, you would have seen a different result.

 

Great thread:good. Superb.

 

Amir Mansour obviously.
I think Ike still could've gained some fine tuning before he went to prison...he lost about half of the rounds in the Tua and Byrd fights and carried the rumors of struggling with Kirk Johnson.

Odlanier Solis due to injuries and being fat.

David Reid due to the eyelid and going off the rails mentally after the Tito fight.


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Sanchez not so sure. Recall that lower weights peak early and tend to burn out fast. And Sanchez was another notorious party animal. Sure, he could have gotten better, but I don't know if it's a given thing, or even a probable thing.

 

James Scott, Ron Lyle?

 

Mike Tyson is one of them maybe

 

That guy that killed his wife

 

Well he was on a trajectory to accomplish a lot, no one can say how it would have unfolded.

Ike's another name that should be mentioned.

 

Muhammad Ali for me.

 

ike and darcy fo sho.

pancho villa and maybe ohba never reached their primes

the bad hands club, williams, floyd, calzage ect, maybe they could have been better?

benitez?

i forgot his name, the jewish boxer who was in Auschwitz.

 

Like mentioned earlier, Lyle.

So many of the great old trainers still in the game back then. And imagine working with a 21 year old Lyle and not having to force feed his career. Time to nurture and polish up the diamond. There really weren't a bunch of up and comers w/ pedigree from that time period. Just having those reflexes of youth make a differencethe playing field was negotiable.

I'm sure a spoiler type guy like Young never ever gets the Lyle fights. Better management and trainers see to that---it'd be more like a face first washed up opponent.