Did cotto ruin the MW title/division

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  1. Walkersmithjr

    Walkersmithjr The Event Decider Full Member

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    This is where it started.. beating Martinez.. defending it at catchweights..ducking GGG.

    He has then passed the torch onto canelo..

    But did Cotto start the decline of the division?
     
  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    I think the trouble started when they were gifting an injured Maravilla the win back in Argentina. Otherwise there had been a champion without much pull or diva antics, and ready to fight where Martinez wasn't with his career ending knee injury.
    The belt probably would have never gotten into Cotto's hands and this whole mess could have been avoided.
     
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    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No mayweather did
     
  4. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    No, that doesn't make any sense.

    Cotton and Nelo had a fight lined up even before Cotton moved up to the MW division. Cotton was supposed to fight Nelo after the Trout fight for a unification but got embarrassed and out boxed by Trout in an upset. Nelo fought Trout instead and Cotton contemplated retirement.

    Instead of retiring, Cotton fought Delvin Rodriguez under Freddie Roach and handled him easily. Martinez(the long reigning lineal MW champ) wasn't impressed and thought he could get an easy payday from the shopworn, damaged goods midget in Cotton. He got knocked out, retired, then Cotton had promotional disputes with Top Rank and was inactive from boxing for a year until he got with Roc Nation. Wanting to have a tune up for the eventual super fight with Nelo, Cotton fought No Mas Geale(GiGi's most accomplished opponent) and handled him easily enough.

    The superfight between Nelo and Cotton was set, and they both made a lot of money. If anyone is to blame, it's Martinez for picking on a shopworn midget instead of one of the other MW champions at the time. GiGi is also to blame for marinating in bumland waiting for handouts from anyone and anything. He recently got handed the WBC belt while also getting handed the WBA belt several years back.

    Would really like to know who he beat to get those belts.
     
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    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who is Cotton? :?
     
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    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, he did. He should stay at 154.
     
  7. adokei

    adokei Well-Known Member Full Member

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    boxing as a whole is ruined.
    catchweights started...maybe with leonard?
    pac was hard on those
    but cotto manipulating the belt for business continued the trend.
    i think nelo has had 5 fights at 55
    will it stop?
    no.
     
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    adokei Well-Known Member Full Member

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    damn...nice.
     
  9. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I agree with Dan re. Martinez being chiefly to blame. Canelo and Cotto were always going to straight ***** out of a fight with GGG.

    Golovkin allowed himself to be jerked around but that doesn't excuse these jokers from their cowardly behaviour. If I were him I'd have been gate crashing pressers and slapping these fools in public.
     
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    Kneeguel Quitto. :yep
     
  11. adokei

    adokei Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ah, the hate.
    and WHO has gigi beaten or even faced?
    nobody of mosely's caliber or mayweather.
    how about a paul williams caliber fighter...no?
    ...yeah, thought so...
     
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    GGG already beat 10 top10, including 4 world champs, 16 defenses so 4 wins more to b-hop's record, never even been down in 400 fights, Amateur legend 345-5, olympic silver medal, world amateur gold, AND finally ducked by almost everyone.

    Boxers that ducked/ducking GGG

    1---Felix sturm - wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.

    2---Peter quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol + he flew to Haymon to avoid GGG

    3---Sergio martinez - "His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster", GGG kept calling him out after his U.S. debut after every fight

    4---Miguel cotto - ducked his mandatory(GGG) twice by fighting Geale and Canelo

    5---Julio cesar chavez jr - Turned down 12mil offer by TR

    6---Saul alvarez - Avoided his mando(GGG). Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG.There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple.

    7---Carl froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now he is retired after making all the fuss, + GGG was calling him for more than a year b4 he was retired so no excuses for "retiring".

    8---Andrea Ward - The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked + he was fine when Dawson came down a whole division for him but wont move half a division for GGG, smh

    9---Billy joe Saunders - Even before winning the WBO title from Lee his fear of Golovkin was as biright as day this is just one of many interviews([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJuwAz-ekoQ[/url]), then after winning it he priced himslef out at 6 mil$. Then turned down $3.2mill offer from k-2(its 2.2 gbp so I converted)

    10---Hassaan ndam njikam -When Hassaan was WBO champ, he was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.

    11---Darren Barker - When Barker defeated Geale to become IBF champ, his promoter openly said that Barker will fight any1 except GGG

    :hi::hi::hi:
     
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    btw I was licking your mom's anus and deep frying your sister's pussy so forgive me for grammar.

    and now you can suck dicks of others on my ignore list :good
     
  14. adokei

    adokei Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ugh...pig
     
  15. adokei

    adokei Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ...soooo...nobody in his resume of note
    thank you for proving my point:noclue:noclue: :noclue:hammertime:hammertime