Could anybody in history outbrawl these fighters?

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Jimmy Wilde - Probably not at fly. Some suggestions would be Arbackakov. You would have to see him make Wilde miss plenty though, but I think he could do it, lord knows he probably had the chin to make it through those tough moments. I favour Wilde though. How about Chang? Anyone think he could step up and out-brawl the great Wilde?

Terry McGovern - Nice pick. I like this pick. He sounds like a *******. I'll offer a couple of names - Prince Naseem Hamed? Probably not peaking at Bantam, but fast, fast, fast with huge power. I suspect he would be to green and would find him self being out-monstered down the straight. Fighting Harada might be the right choice. I think he'd have a better chance than most others. How about Orlando Canizales as a bit off a wild card pick? Anyone think he could do it?

Manny Pacquiao - I think Manny is becoming a tiny bit overated. Marquez has now twice exposed him form the pocket with good technical punching IMO. Keeping that in mind I wonder if peak versions of Morales and Barrera couldn't do more than the actually meetings would suggest to us. I also think he could find himself outmuscled and beaten back by Saddler as has already been said.

Roberto Duran - Again, nobody. I guess Ike Williams has to be given a chance, but I favour Roberto. Henry Armstrong must be offered the proper respect, too, but Duran would be smarter about the war in my opinion.

Kid Gavilan - Thomas Hearns could get it done, I think, but it's possible that he would find himself wilting down the straight. The thing with the Kid is, he's the type of fighter that seems to make rounds close, hard to score, always in the danger zone and busy, clever about not getting hit clean, and doesn't look hurt when he does get hit clean. If Kid could hold on during what I see as Hearns' inevitable domination of the fight, it's possible he could make things happen later. But I favour Hearns. Charley Burley could get the job done, but it would never happen as a brawl, even if Burley went after him early, he'd end up behind the one two, stepping in and out. It will depend on how you feel about cross-era's, but I think that Joe Walcott should be made a favourite. Too much power. I think Mickey Walker could do him too.

Dick Tiger - Nope. LaMotta does not have a serious chance in my view. The only advantages he has is an edge in chin and a slightly cuter style inside, but Tiger is wrong for LaMotta. Sacralidge, but I think Tiger might be able to stop Jake. Harry Greb...depends on you definition of a brawl, but I think not. If Greb goes to war he would get handled and punched around. To much craft for a stoppage, probably, but I see a UD. Hagler, no, he would get outpointed in a beautiful one.

Bob Foster - Horrible. The trick here is to take him out very very quickly with pure aggression. Look what he did to Tiger! Nobody is lasting with him if they are brawling, I don't think. And great brawlers without killing power - Kid Norfolk, Battling Siki and Harry Greb - they get taken despite perhaps even dominating, because nobody can last with him in the pocket. I think Sam Langford is a fine choice. He is a KO artist and a great finisher - he could get it done, I think. MAYBE Archie Moore could find the right punch....

George Foreman - Well Lyle, hardly a great composite puncher, very nearly pulled it off. Tyson, Louis, Liston and, without wishing to turn this into a 40 page thread, Dempsey, could all out-brawl him...I would like to hear from SuzieQ and some other Marciano guys about why Rocky could get the job done, if he could

 

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And why should he with other ways to win?