Mr. Andre Son of God Ward will dominate hard.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MVC!, Jun 20, 2016.


  1. So what you are basically saying is that the word thug is a racist term according to your ultra pc paranoid mind.

    Even though the word thug has been used for decades to describe criminals from all races, you want to make out it is a racial slur soley towards the black man.

    I've got no time for this bs, I will continue to call Andre Ward for what he is, which is a thug, now deal with it!
     
  2. Nate Hound

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    Well not that easy to take someone like Kova's power away seeming it's power based on speed, precision and accumulation...

    On top of that, Kovalev doesn't break down when he doesn't get the KO he can very easily box without frustration hence the Hopkins fight.
     
  3. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree for the most part. I wouldn't necessarily say his power is "based on speed, precision and accumulation." More like his power is based on...well...power. He is extremely heavy handed. However, he delivers his power using a combination of speed, precision, power, and good timing. And he can be patient and box...as you said. That's the puzzle Ward will need to solve. And it is a rather difficult one...no room for mistakes.

    Ward isn't a 50 year old though. I'm not sure a prime or near prime Hopkins, would have folded like that either. It would have been a very different fight. I think Ward has what it takes to do what Hopkins was basically too old to do. But, this is why they fight...so we can see. So, we shall see.

    Ward has fought some good guys. But, Kovalev would be the best of them...for sure. So, it is a step up fight for both of them.

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  4. Badbot

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    I´ve already dealt with it. :good Heck, i didn´t even have to. But any real thug would laugh at that notion.
    And i laugh that you would ever call a caucasian a thug. Thats like calling yourself gay when you are in a good mood. I doubt you would. :deal
     
  5. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The guy is OBVIOUSLY a family man. He is not out flashing his money, seen in strip clubs, associated with gang activity, bar room brawls etc. I live in the Bay and get around. I have never seen the guy. He is VERY low key. He doesn't appear to smoke, drink, or even eat fast food. He is a standout amateur, brought home the gold for his country (one of the few to do it, in quite sometime). He is an uber talented fighter, excellent commentator and boxing ****yst.

    But, in the ring, when that bell sounds, he is nothing nice. And he is what he has to be, when you are putting your life at risk. Does he fight dirty? Sometimes. But, he can box his a$$ off too. He can outmuscle a lot of guys. And he is clever in there. He is a winner...period.

    Does he play when it comes to his business? Obviously not. He wasn't happy with his contract. So, he tried to get out of it. Big deal. Did he kill Goosen (R.I.P.) to do it? No. He tried to go through the court system. And he basically lost the case. He was later bought out of his contract. It is his career and his busines. At the end of the day, he put his livelihood at risk and it paid off in the end. Some may not agree with it. But, it was his decision to make.

    But, a THUG Andre Ward is not. He is not about that life, as the saying goes. So, either you mean he is a "thug" in that squared circle (not entirely untrue) or you mean it as a racial epithet (not cool). As the other poster told you, THUG is used by the dominant culture these days, to generally describe black males (adult and child) who appear threatening to some people.

    I agree that sociopathic criminals of all types, may better fit this label. It has even become a fad to embrace it...sadly. But, it is not at all befitting of someone with Andre Ward's background.

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  6. salih

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    If Ward is so strong how come he ducked Bute? Why did he refused to clean the smw division and unify all belts?
     
  7. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Would it kill you to actually post something unbiased?
     
  8. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    prob because ward went through a tough stretch of fights against good to decent competition while bute played around with bums waiting to take on a winner of a grueling tourney.......and ward didn't need butes belt to be known as the kingpin of 168...he was already known as that without it.....

    he didn't duck bute...and bute has been exposed as nothing special that would have ever given ward, especially an active one, any problems......u saw an inactive, rusty, ward handle barrera with ease......a sharp ward would have shutout bute and maybe even stopped him
     
  9. You sound like an Obama disciple who has been brainwashed through his black lives matter bs.

    I call people thugs all the night, in a football tournament there was english, russian and french thugs causing trouble and the media used the term as well.

    I never heard any of the nationalitites crying about racism with the term thug, but hypervigilent Obama diciples love to declare anything and everything racist when it suits them.

    Well let me tell you something...

    **** OBAMA!!!
     
  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    In the US the word thug has certain connotations that it doesn't have elsewhere. It is a loaded term Stateside.

    Anyway... It doesn't matter how you slice it, Andre Ward isn't a 'thug' no matter what your interpretation of the word is.
     
  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    With what Ward's been giving out (he looks good, excellent for the layoff) it's the only outcome I can see. I can see Ward beating Stevenson and Beterbiev (as long as he stays on the outside), I see Ward dominating everyone else at LHW, but not Kovalev.
     
  12. Yes I know and that's because of Obama and his goons i.e protesters who victimise themselves and don't want to be held accountable for their actions.

    I'm just gonna call them felons now instead of thugs.
     
  13. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I don't know about that. It's an urban slang thing that has become a pejorative term. A bit like chav really. Travellers originally used the term to refer to their children but nowadays it means something quite different.

    Anyway, Andre Ward isn't a felon either to my knowledge.
     
  14. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is identical to the pre Hopkins fight rhetoric. They have simply replaced his name with Ward.
     
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  15. Yorak Hunt

    Yorak Hunt New Member Full Member

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    anyone putting money on this fight ?