Duane Bobick vs Primo Carnera

Carnera by KO. Duane could outbox him for a bit, but eventually the giant Primo will land something heavy and Bobick will go.

 

Duane is out boxing him until he takes a right uppercut from Primo then finito

 

Yeah right
Bobick chops Carnera up.

 

Yeah old Primo was a dynamite puncher.:hey

 

Duane was a slow starter with a busy body and inside attack once getting going. Even Paul Gallico admitted attacking Primo's body was useless. Carnera's jab controls matters at range, his physical strength in close, and Duane's stamina isn't going to help him much with this opponent.

Good battle, but Duane's not decisioning somebody who legitimately beat both Loughran and Uzcudun over the Championship Distance. Duane's best televised win I've seen over somebody Primo's size was with the short armed Wepner. Carnera wouldid neutralize with his clinching, he wasn't a bleeder like Chuck, and much stronger physically with much longer arms. Inside hustle to the body doesn't do it for Duane here.

 

He isn't decisioning, him he's stopping him.Neither Uzcudun or Loughran were punchers.
When Carnera met one he went down.

Bobick is 6'3" with an 82" reach ,he isn't a blown-up past prime lhvy like Loughran.or a 5'10" mauler like Uzcudun.

 

Yeah, like he chopped up Tate.

 

You reinforce my point, Carnera is not Tate.:good

 

The only reason Max Baer stopped Carnera is because Primo twisted his ankle in that first knockdown, an injury which landed Carnera in the hospital the next day. If not for that ankle injury, there's no chance Max Baer halts Primo before the final bell.

Duane Bobick lost his two biggest professional bouts in a single round, the first of those in less than a minute against the only heavyweight contender who was as slow as starter as himself.

Louis, on the other hand, decimated Carnera in the Bomber's first major bout in NYC, garnering Joe's respect for his guts and dogged determination not to stay down or give up. Duane got psyched out for major bouts. Primo got psyched up, or gutted it out. Jack Sharkey beat the daylights out of Carnera in their first match, but Primo came off the deck from the first knockdown of his career, courtesy of Sharkey's most perfect bomb of a left hook on film, to go the Championship Distance, then mauled Jack all over the place in their rematch to become the Champion Bobick never was.

I don't care how dismissive Gains was of Carnera, I've seen the footage, and the embarrassing fact Larry had to live with is that Primo legitimately decked Larry Gains with legal scoring punching, flash KD or not.

Carnera improved in his rematches against both Uzcudun and Sharkey, and those improvements have been seen on film.

For punching Primo into a forced stoppage when Carnera was at his best without the aid of something like an ankle injury requiring hospitalization took the punching combination skills of a young Dempsey or Louis. (Again, even a peak Max Baer failed to separate Primo from his senses.) Duane Bobick isn't coming close to stopping Carnera before the final bell. He didn't take a multitude of knockdowns from Max Baer because of a bad chin, but a bad wheel. Primo did not have a Floyd Patterson or Lennox Lewis chin. (Between them Lennox and Floyd lost three HW Championships to single knockdowns, and LL lost both his to a single punch. Primo was on his feet after 11 knockdowns when referee Arthur Donovan stopped it in 11 rounds.)

 

You believe what you want to.:good

 

Gotta go with Carnera here.. Duane had a nice amateur career and was good enough in the pros to qualify as "fringe." But I don't know if I can see the man who got stopped in 30 seconds by an aged Norton taking out Da' Prim'

 

Donovan stopped it at Carnera's request ,don't you know that? "Carnera had nothing." Joe Louis
Carnera did not knock down Gains.
Carnera was on the deck against Stribling, but as this was one of his many fixed fights perhaps you don't count it?

 

Carnera was complaining to Donovan about Maxie fouling him. Carnera did knock down Gains, regardless of whether or not the referee called it.

Strib's bouts against Primo were not on film, so of course I don't count them.

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