Video: Deontay Wilder vs Chris Arreola - Preview & Prediction

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  1. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone Full Member

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    He won't be in condition. Especially as he's no spring chicken it would take Chris years to get in shape and hold down a respectable weight.
     
  2. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong Full Member

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    My opinion is that it's a mismatch bordering on absurdity. Arreola is an undisciplined mess who's beyond shot.

    Duhaupa and Szpilka are better than current Arreola. Even Molina probably is (Yes, I know Arreola KO1'd Molina years ago).

    It's so disappointing that it made me turn against Wilder, one of my former favorite fighters.

    That said, I'm now holding out hope that Wilder only took this fight because he suspects he might have to face Povetkin next and wants an easy match to be fresh.
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Always wondered what you were smoking in that emoji, Rummy. Now I know. :D

    Another good ****ysis, right or wrong thanks and keep 'em coming!
     
  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Brave prediction by Rummy Kudo's my man You know I'd love to see these guys dissing Arreola's faces if he did pull off the upset & prove Rummy right
    Hope its a good fight with no controversy
     
  5. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    an easy fight to ****yse IMO

    wilder to keep it long / jab and potshot from the outside with a change up of direction with his feet every now and then will be enough to stop arreola getting set

    wilder can then use his height and speed to control the fight at his leasure.

    arreola pushes his right handpunches from the outside and they are slow and telegraphed when he tries to throw from range.

    stiverne got arreola going with a wide roundhouse right temple shot /wilder throws that punch a lot from distamce and is much quicker of hand and foot than stiverne.

    speed and length mean wilder can win this with ease.

    arreola to win with his lack of prep and current form / he has to walk through wilders shots frpm the opening bell/pin him to the ropes and throw hail marys and get a big shot in when wildwer fires back as wilder tends to throw very wide instead of bringing uppercuts up the middel or straight rights down the pipe.

    cannot see it though/ i think arreola will be hurt early / reluctent to walk though and plod after wilder until wilder catches him flush with a big shot and then ref stops fight shortly after when wilder tees off on the hurt arreola.

    wilder wins rsf 3 to 4
     
  6. MonkeyEarMuffs

    MonkeyEarMuffs Dynamite Upper! Full Member

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    Except he does, and has competed at the top level of his generation. He lost to some of the best, and made some mistakes, but to flat out say he has no skill, no grasp of his craft, is BS a$$hole-ary at its finest.

    To anyone with any knowledge of boxing, you can see the shots he sets up, the angles he sets up, the counter punching knowledge he has. He plays to his style because it's his style, he gets paid for it, and it gets him fights.

    He fell short, granted, but to just dismiss him because he's not the best is shortsighted and overcritical. To flat-out deride him, and label him as a talentless plodder, is dumb, it shows no grasp of the style he's cultivated. He may not have become a master of cutting off the ring, stringing efficient,dynamic close-range punches together, or effective head-movement/defense in his approach, but he's certainly no slouch. He has skill, tons of experience, and almost ludicrous amounts of heart.

    Perhaps in his waning years he can be considered a gate keeper, but that is presumptuous, he still has good fights in him, and frankly, an in shape Chris has always been, at the very least, considered a perennial contender, which is by no means a bad place to be.
     
  7. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree. I hate how it seems to me that most on this forum dismiss anyone who isn't at the top, as a "bum" or "talentless".

    Most have no idea at all what it takes to make it, or how good most of those "bums" really are when compared to a true bum or even "average" boxer.
     
  8. MonkeyEarMuffs

    MonkeyEarMuffs Dynamite Upper! Full Member

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    Exactly this.

    Chris, compared to a great majority of the HW division, is really talented. He has obvious weight and discipline issues, but his understanding of the craft is pretty apparent to anyone with a knowledge of the sport.

    Why he doesn't apply it is another matter. Chris knows his stuff. I've seen him box,train, etc. What he has on display in the ring is just a small part of what he knows. He may have application dicipline issues. Meaning, he CAN box (AND seriously, Chris can, and often does box in spots) but he can't maintain the style over the course of 10 rounds, let alone 12. It's a shame, but frankly, he's making a decent living just being Chris.

    I'll be the first to admit that I DO get upset that Chris can't fully apply what I believe he is capable of. I think he would be a really exciting and successful boxer-puncher. But I also think there is a ton of bravado/machismo mixed with a regard for business needs. There is a reason he is is always in contention. It's because his style is attractive, he always puts on good shows, and he is easy to work with. Those are marketable traits.

    But it is just this comfort that opponents have with him that makes his so damn dangerous. He has one punch power. It hasn't gone away. He SEEMS brutish, plodding, and unrefined, but Chris arguably knows boxers and counter-punchers better than most fighters and even trainers.

    He's made a career of closing the distance against this generation's strongest opposition, and done relatively well for himself. He didn't fall a$$-backwards into this, he is good at it. Credit where credit is due.

    I honestly believe that if the Chris that fought Stiverne shows up on Saturday night, and he manages to close the distance, Deontay doesn't have the eyes, defense, counter-punching skill, or chin to deal with the heat Chris is able to bring.

    I for one hope Arreola busts Wilder's ass. Because Chris is not only the perennial contender, but he's the perennial underdog. Al Hayman knows that his money has bought Wilder the best trainers, the best mitt-men, the best nutritionist, the best S&C coaches, and the best sparring partners. Look at Wilder's jump in skill and tactics. He's working with good people and that costs money. Al Haymon INVESTED in Wilder, and is protecting that investment.

    Likewise, he invested in Arreola, which was, I believe, actually part of his investment in the HW division, which in part supports his main concern, having an American HW Champ, Deontay Wilder.

    Arreola is supposed to lose, and he knows this. But he has nothing TO lose. Deontay, and Hayman, and the whole process of Wilder's career is what boxing fans claim to hate, and when Arreola, the kind of blood-and-guts, honest, every-man is served up, people actually criticize and dismiss him. That's BS.

    Arreola invested in himself, in his career as a boxer. He learned the craft, developed a style, and applied it. He moved up the ranks, took his licks, and made his name.

    Wilder is a fabrication. He's an investment that is slowly but surely paying off.

    I for one hope Chris not only tosses a ****** wrench into this machine, I hope he firmly shoves wrenches up a$$es.
     
  9. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I predict this thread will get buried. I promise not to bump it after Wilder knocks Arreola the **** out. I have been saying, folks need to see this so that makes the fight worthwhile despite the naysaying bellends.
     
  10. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    im going to have a taco fest come saturday:smoke

    all the tacos and coronas you could eat:good
     
  11. FrankieinTexas

    FrankieinTexas the Bronx to Texas Full Member

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    Rummy, Rummy, Rummy....what's happened to you? Tell me it ain't so...picking Arreola? He's 5 years past his due-by date. He's a chimichanga that's gone bad.

    Wilder KO within 5.
     
  12. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Rummy I love your spots but bro.......PICKING CHRIS:nut
    This fights ends in less than 7 rounds and that is me being gracious to the Taco Man:lol:

    If Wilder was to lose this one I would shzit my pants and then some:rofl:lol:

    Wilder KO on nipples before the 7th:deal

    Keep the videos coming Rummy


    WAR RUMMY:bbb:hi:
     
  13. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    That's Arreola jinxed now then. :bart
     
  14. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    i was going to challenge rummy for a one month ban

    but now i dont know

    it only takes one shot to put alabama out cold:lol:
     
  15. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spzilka was competitive. Molina was competitive. Arreola is as good as them, so who knows...could be an interesting fight for a little while.