How Well Do AJ's Best Wins Perform Against Wlad, Deontay, Sasha, Fury, Usyk & Ortiz?

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  1. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not so sold on Wilder coming out with his hand being raised facing those 3 guys. I give him no better than a 10% chance if he's fighting them in their backyard. American heavies do not make for very good road warriors and I don't think a guy like Wilder would be any different.

    I also think Wilder's defense leaves bigger holes than Joshua's. And not as fast of handspeed. Now, after those guys suffered brutal defeats to Joshua they are hardly the same undefeated guys on the way up. More like damaged goods. They are all big big rebuilding projects and very few guys make it through that kind of thing close to their previous form.

    I also think 1 f those guys gives Povetkin problems. Just doing the math--3 youthful up and comers and 1 of them is causing problems. Things will not go according to plan and in one of the 3 fights, Povetkin brings in that B game of his. Ditto Fury.
     
  2. calumowns

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    Get real guys - Wlad would not KO anyone - at least not until the late rounds (8/9+).
    He would outclass them, but, he's clearly too cautious and isn't confident enough to release his hands.
     
  3. CalzWelshPrince

    CalzWelshPrince New Member Full Member

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    Surely, a more legitimate question is pitting his best wins against the likes of those guys after they'd had 17 fights?

    I think it's widely accepted AJ isn't the finished article just yet. The likes of Wlad and Wilder would handily beat his resume to date (like AJ has).
     
  4. Bad News Brit

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    So you are saying all 3 do worse v Klitschko than anyone since Ray Austin in 2007, including the likes of shot Rahmen, Moremeck, Pianenta and Lepai....

    Plus if Wilder stops them all quicker, then why didn't he stop Gavern quicker...
     
  6. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post.
     
  7. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Of course it's a more legitimate question. OP doesn't want to compare apples to apples, he just has an irrational dislike of AJ and wants to push that agenda.
     
  8. zop

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    Mormeck - Martin ?
    Lepai -Whyte ?
    Pianeta - Breazeale ?

    I respect Wlad, but...
     
  9. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vlad still beats them all.............Fury does not want to fight him, he knows better..............AJ has never fought anyone, Wilder has never fought anyone..................
     
  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Forget the fan boys cause why would you ever listen to them anyway,listen to what AJ has to say about himself,listen to what he says and it's hard to pick holes in him as he keeps on saying he's a work in progress,can't remember when he turned pro but he's only fought around 17 fights,the real problem which was pointed out before it happened was him getting that IBF belt that he never deserved and should of stayed with Fury,there was some corrupt dealings going on there with that belt I reckon and all it done was to cheapen what is a prestigious belt,belts like that should be hard won not given away to a guy like Charles Martin who beat a man with a blown knee,thing is though AJ is now gonna have his opponents picked for him by the IBF ready or not.

    If you're talking resumes then Deontay Wilders after 17 no wait 30 fights is a pearler,i guarantee you that AJ will of fought one of the top six before he gets anywhere near 30 fights?
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    That's rich coming from you, you sack of ****, you're one of the most biased mother****ers on the site. That's like cerealmonotony accusing me of being a racist. If you think so little of me and my threads, why the f*** do you keep looking at them? After all you usually only grace us with your presence once every 2 or 3 weeks, why do you want to waste your oh so precious time with a worthless piece of garbage like me? If you don't like me, then stop reading my threads you subhuman vomit.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No I didn't, I think Dimitrenko is garbage, and I've never said one good thing about him, I might have said he could beat AJ, jokingly, but that's about it.

    Charr is shot to hell at this point and doesn't stand a chance against Breazeale, Martin or Whyte, and his loss to Duhaupas wasn't controversial in the least, Briggs is all hot air, he's looking for another big paycheck before retiring, in all likelihood, he couldn't beat any of them, he might have a slight puncher's chance.

    Sasha is spelled Sasha here, I'm an American so I spell it like we do. Like you spell it the German way.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    That's great, I have no problem with that line of reasoning, but how about all the people who slob his knob 24/7 take that same advice, people want to hype him like there's no tomorrow and extoll his greatness ad nauseam, when he hasn't accomplished diddly squat, he's beaten a couple of bums, nothing more, nothing less, people on here, mostly the British fans not only hype him and say he's a top 10 heavy but are basically touting him as a future ATG, based off of blowing a few losers out of the water early and going seven rounds with two skill less plodders.
     
  14. CST80

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    Gavern is his sparring partner, he was clearly taking it easy on him, and yeah if Wlad wasn't so risk adverse, he could have probably taken them out whenever he wanted to. Pulev made him angry and he almost decapitated Kubrat in the first round. Wlad can be a passionless robot, so maybe if he takes his time, the matches would last longer.
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Dude I was referring to Sasha Povetkin, not Dimitrenko.:deal