UFC Model - Good or Bad for Boxing?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by wildharpo, Aug 23, 2016.


  1. wildharpo

    wildharpo Member Full Member

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    I would personally love to see a UFC-style system where promoters are cut out of the equation. However, I also realize that I'm looking at it from a fan's perspective. From that perspective, cutting promoters out of the equation means less potential for the kinds of contract disputes that keep major fights from taking place (or at least from taking place while both fighters are still in their prime). It also lessens the possibility that a fighter can pad his or her resume for several years before facing a tough challenger.

    From a fighter's perspective, however, is this a demotivational proposition? This means that you will be forced earlier in your career, if the unified body feels so compelled, to fight dangerous prospects that have the potential to steal your "0" and damage your career before it gets off the ground. You will also be forced to fight as often as the company decides rather than dictating your own schedule. Thirdly, depending on how it is structured, will you be able to make as much money as your promoter is currently able to provide? Fourthly, would fighters from outside the United States (assuming it's a national company) be willing to travel to the U.S. that often for their fights, or would the governing body merely sanction/order the fights and not hold them at the same venue like UFC does?

    The PBC provides some highly entertaining fights in my opinion, and I'd love to see that model expanded to include some bigger name fighters. I know it's a pipe dream at the moment, but I often envision how the sport of boxing could evolve (hopefully for the better) under a unified body.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    One thing I like about UFC is there is one champion per weight. Too many frauds in boxing and orgs that indulge them.
     
  3. wildharpo

    wildharpo Member Full Member

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    Good point.
     
  4. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    It would help a lot. Mainstream fans main frustration with boxing is the confusion over who is champion.

    Also, the UFC marketing and production is on point. Boxings marketing is atrocious.
     
  5. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That and fewer weight classes.
    In the UFC you move up 20lbs. and like it!

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  6. McGrain

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    It needs to be remembered that the UFC is an organisation, not a sport. The sport is MMA. The one name that stands out against this "model":

    Fedor Emelianenko

    If you're not in the UFC, you can't compete in MMA against any UFC fighters, as I understand it. UFC is like the WBC, but WBC fighters aren't allowed to take on WBA fighters.

    All this stuff about UFC having one champion is true, but it's also true of the IBF. The sport is MMA, not UFC. UFC is only acceptable to a majority because it's American mainstream. If it was Japanese, it would be considered lunacy to project it as a model for boxing. Which it is.
     
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  7. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This
     
  8. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Well said Mc.
     
  9. Jim Jeffries

    Jim Jeffries Ring General banned Full Member

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    There's not ''one champion'' per weight anymore. They introduced the ''interim'' belt for Jose Aldo as a stopgap to wait for McGregor to go back to 145lbs.


    UFC still has that ''white trash'' image but it's been diminishing over the years.

    Usually down to the commentators mostly. The Reebok deal is also apparently shady.

    I think White is a huge liar and UFC should move on without the guy. I think he's past his sell by date. The same with Joe Rogan, too. There's a lot better, more non-biased mma ****ysts out there than him.
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hey, they actually follow the WADA Code and suspended BJ Penn for using IVs. That's a good thing in my book.

    Question, why did USADA follow WADA Code for UFC, and not for NSAC?????
     
  11. wildharpo

    wildharpo Member Full Member

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    You're right, the only way it would work was if the fighters all agreed that this unified organization was the superior world boxing organization and held it in high esteem.

    I remember everyone wanting to see Fedor fight Lesnar and being told, "Well, he doesn't fight under our (UFC) canopy, so we can't do anything to make it happen." That was certainly a frustrating thing to hear. However, when you consider the current state of boxing and the bickering that occurs between promoters, is it really much different?

    The situation between Fedor and Lesnar actually mirrors, in my mind, the way that boxing promoters often butt heads with each other and fail to come to the table with reasonable terms to match their fighters with each other. On top of the promoters, the WBA, WBC, IBF and WBA each has its own set of champions (and sometimes "interim" and "special" champions within the same weight class) that it tries to protect and the matchups that the fans want to see often get put on the back burner.

    If enough of the world's fighters would get under this proposed unified organization's canopy, this could be eliminated. I realize, again, that this is probably living in a dream world rather than the real world. There's too much corruption and bribery in the sport for it to be very likely, and the history of the world's boxing sanctioning bodies is already well-ingrained in the sport.
     
  12. Kazakh Thunder

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  13. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    We'e sorry we have common sense. :patsch:rofl
     
  14. K.D

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    The ufc is an organisation not a sport.

    What we really need is for 1 champion per weight division.

    UFC will not sell without Conor McGregor, we just need another Floyd Mayweather.
     
  15. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Look at the history of MMA and the UFC, there have always been organisations that have sprung up to challenge as the leading MMA org.

    Strikeforce was considered a 2nd tier league then they get bought out and basically all the new UFC champs are former Strikeforce fighters.

    The UFC model is terrible but the way they market it and the WWE low IQ fans eat it up, all of sudden you have a great money making brand.

    Imagine if the UFC actually had world class athletes like we see in boxing