Did 160lb James Toney KO W Klitschko in sparring?

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Just saw this. Does anyone know anything behind it?
     
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    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Pepper Roach makes no mention of a knockout here
    https://streamable.com/7wpj

    He kinda alludes to it here?
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    Toney, again, talking about KOing him
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    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Hate seeing these men being interviewed in this kind of condition. Feels very exploitative. And Roach alluded to Toney getting the best of Wlad's brother in sparring but his comments didn't suggest that anyone got knocked out or anything.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Heard from two different folks who claimed to be there that this is total bs, that nothing of substance happened when they sparred... and it was Vit not Wlad . And Toney hasn't sniffed 160 since Vit was a kid.
     
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    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Apparently, Toney made Vitali look very bad.
     
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    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    KOed him?
    Doubtful.
    Made him look absolutely silly?
    Probably.
     
  7. BCS8

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    Well some folks claim Wlad gets staggered when they close the lid of his take away noodles too violently, so maybe we should take it with a pinch of salt.
     
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    It was Vitali. And it's said he got the best of him in sparring. He sure wasn't 160. LOL

    Toney comes off as the type of guy that goes 100% in sparring all the time. Most don't. So if he did get the best of him, that might have came into play. Toney going all out while Vitali went 60%, because he isn't going to treat a random sparring session like it's a title fight.
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney was about a cruiserweight at that time.There is a reason Vitali never mentioned James Toney's name.He can't cope with that style.Wlad is a different story though
     
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    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Vitali would've been about 20 or so at the time if he was sparring a 160 lb Toney.
     
  11. FrankieinTexas

    FrankieinTexas the Bronx to Texas Full Member

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    Sparring? We're talking about sparring. Sparring. Come on, sparring?
    Not real boxing, but sparring? Like, sparring?
     
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    Well they are at opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to natural boxing ability and ring intelligence, so who knows.
     
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    impacted Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed. That Ellie guy really does seem about as unpleasant as it gets, just a horribly exploitative chancer with a camera who has no love for the sport and completely lacks respect for the fighters.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Toney struggled mightily with Rahman, Peter and Oquendo...
     
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    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney was 10 years older in those fights